Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milites Christi
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 16:14, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Milites Christi
Apparent hoax. Google shows 3 hits for '"Milites Christi" jiujitsu, one of which is Wikipedia. The arms shown are lifted from Malta and the Kingdom of Jerusalem. Looks like conspiracy-theory garbage. AlexTiefling 13:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. DarthVader 13:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete (unsurprisingly) - I have also now found Milites christi which is identical, and which I am therefore adding to this AfD. AlexTiefling 13:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete both per nom. Deli nk 14:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete both versions. Kafziel 15:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete unless a reliable source is provided to prove that this isn't the hoax it looks like. Alternatively, a redirect to Miles Christi might conceivably be useful (and would discourage recreation). — Haeleth Talk 17:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Redirect Apologies, i created the article and it is not a hoax. The organisation exists, although its foundations are small, and even smaller online. My attempts to redirect the page to Milites Christi have been unsuccessful, however this was my initial idea. I currently have no verifiable publicy published sources to back up the information held on the article. The only testemony I can give to prove the organisations existence is my own, after interviewing a member in January of this year. However in accordance with Wikipedias Deletion Policy I aknowledge its deletion as viable. User:1303 20:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment People claim to be members of the Priory of Sion, too, but I wouldn't regard that as firm evidence. If this isn't a hoax, then it's original research. (1303, I'm not accusing you of perpetrating the hoax - but you are conceivably the victim of one.) AlexTiefling 08:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I aknowledge your comments and fully understand the dilema faced here. However the organisation is a relatively small one, and as far as i'm aware has had only one article in a 1997 edition of Clitheroe Today, Lancs, UK (for which I do not have a link). As you say the organisation could conceivably be a hoax, however i'm near to fully certain that the source is a reliable one. I would classify this as Original Research (in terms of online conent), although I do not know if this would save the article from deletion. If the article is to be erased on these grounds, so be it, but it was originally added to highlight the organisation within the online public domain. If hard evidence is needed to maintain the article, i have none as yet, although I suspect some will come to light.1303 10:58 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Further investigation shows that an organisation called 'Milites Christi' was founded in 1939 by Giuseppe Lazzati. (Source[1]) That body subsequently became the Secular Institute of Christ the King. There's also a fiercely Catholic, distinctly American, and almost certainly non-notable body (12 members!) calling itself 'Milites Christi' with a painfully slow web page here: [2].
- Comment I aknowledge your comments and fully understand the dilema faced here. However the organisation is a relatively small one, and as far as i'm aware has had only one article in a 1997 edition of Clitheroe Today, Lancs, UK (for which I do not have a link). As you say the organisation could conceivably be a hoax, however i'm near to fully certain that the source is a reliable one. I would classify this as Original Research (in terms of online conent), although I do not know if this would save the article from deletion. If the article is to be erased on these grounds, so be it, but it was originally added to highlight the organisation within the online public domain. If hard evidence is needed to maintain the article, i have none as yet, although I suspect some will come to light.1303 10:58 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment People claim to be members of the Priory of Sion, too, but I wouldn't regard that as firm evidence. If this isn't a hoax, then it's original research. (1303, I'm not accusing you of perpetrating the hoax - but you are conceivably the victim of one.) AlexTiefling 08:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
