Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Yaconelli

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. The sources provided by GRBerry clearly demonstrate notability. Eluchil404 22:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mike Yaconelli

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Without wanting to hurt anybodies feelings, this page is obviously a tribute from this mans friends and families. This would be ok if it was re-edited, provided he was actually notable. The reference is little more than a blog, and it is evident from the personal quotes and info that this is either not notable, or a practical joke.delete JJJ999 04:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

• Weak Keep It is possible to verify the contents of this article. A quick google search shows quite a number of hits for this subject. Moreover, the article is well referenced as well. The subject in question also wrote quite a number of books as well. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 06:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • query- really? the references look like blog type sources to me... is there really anything notable there?JJJ999 08:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. The sources listed for him are two blogs and a bio page on the "Youth Specialties" organization he founded. As for his books, there are several on Amazon, but they are mostly published by "Zondervan" which appears to be affiliated with the aforementioned Youth Specialties. I see nothing to indicate that he or any of his self-published books are notable. Cap'n Walker 20:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
• Can some more people vote this off so we can club it to death? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJJ999 (talk • contribs) 06:17, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Maybe he was a nice guy, but just not notable enough. Ward3001 22:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - nn author, his books rank in the deep thousands in sales ranks at Amazon, while most places consider the top 100 or so "best sellers", his books show a smattering a few orders of magnitude less notable: a couple of books apparently better than 100,000th in rank, and several in 200,000th rank, and Spiritual Challenge Journal--The Next Level ranking as Amazon's 656,648th best seller in books. Just nn. Carlossuarez46 23:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Move to Strike- time is up, clear consensus.JJJ999 05:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Clearly notable. See coverage in Christianity Today at the time of his death, a few months later, their online news magazine interviewed a couple years earlier. (Full versions of first two only available to subscribers.) See coverage of death in Crosswalk.com's news department, by their senior news & culture editor here (1st of 3 web pages). Audio interview by World Vision report available at [1]. Obituary in a secular newspaper here. Amazon book rankings are current sales volume; he died 4 years ago, so the current rankings are not meaningful indicators of the ranks of the books at the time they were released, which is when best sellerdom is measured. Plenty more sources out there; I didn't bother going past the first page of google results since notability is obvious once the research is done. GRBerry 17:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. —GRBerry 17:14, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per GRBerry, this is in line with WP:BIO as the subject is notable within his niche or subject of expertise. Burntsauce 21:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.