Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Vance

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy delete a7, article positively asserts subject's nonnotability. NawlinWiki 19:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mike Vance

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A supposed poet whose existence is unverifiable. Google searches for his name and any of the poems come up empty. Anon removed the prod and added the following to the talk page: "I think there were no Google matches because this poet is some sort of lone nut who writes his poems on napkins. Simply because he does not have any matches on Google does not mean that he is not worthy of being recorded in digital history.". So yeah, delete. ... discospinster talk 17:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

  • delete. I did a Google for Mike Vance, Michael Vance, M. Vance, plus some of the quoted titles and found nothing relevant. Plus the linkage to Lindsay Lohan, Hilary Duff, and Jessica Simpson in the "Sexual Conquests" section of the article seems just maybe possible a little bit hoax-like.  :-) Thomas Dzubin Talk 17:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • These poems do exist. I have read them. If you look at http://www.myspace.com/babymohl you can see the remnants of his blog where his work resides. Also, on Mike Vance's Facebook page he has a group entitled Rip These Poems OFf where he presents his work. I met this poet and can ensure you he does exist! Everything on the article is true at the time of this writing. 17:53, 7 February 2007 User:208.7.218.32 (= author of Mike Vance page).
  • But there are likely -illions of minor poets and poetasters who write in blogs. Anthony Appleyard 18:02, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


It seems to me everyone here is missing the point. The people who call for deletion and those in favor of keeping the article don't understand that this guy represents the unheard mass of people who clamour for a voice in this new world. Look at this discussion page, it has brought serious inquiry into a life no one would have bothered with before the article was written. I am in favor of keeping the article simply to remind the world how powerful one life can be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.7.218.32 (talk • contribs)

ok, I see the "Sexual Conquests" section has disappeared now, However...Since you are the author of the page, perhaps you might want to put some references on the article page as per WP:VERIFY ... well I still say delete based on non-notable, as per WP:NN. I doesn't mean that "I don't understand that he represents the unheard mass of people ", I just think that the article doesn't fit the Wikipedia policies for being included in wikipedia, that's all. Thomas Dzubin Talk 18:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. Thomas Whoever authored the article: take a look at WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not the place to leave your mark on the world. Also, apologies to Mr. Vance but jotting poems on napkins leaves him a long way from notoriety under WP:BIO; his alleged publications on numerous magazines would have to be documented. First he has to become notable, then maybe an article on Wikipedia about him will be warranted; not the other way around. Roadmr (t|c) 18:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

This guy, Vance, is a jerk. I met him once and he was all ignorant and stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.7.218.32 (talk • contribs)

  • Comment Since the author appears to be participating in this discussion, I agree with Thomas Dzubin on putting some sourcing in the article. Otherwise I can't see it meeting notability. Citicat 18:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.