Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike McGavick

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The result was keep. As the CEO of a major company and a candidate for the US Senate, McGavick demonstrates sufficient notability for inclusion in Wikipedia.. alphaChimp ^laudare 02:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mike McGavick

Candidate for Senate whose only other claim to fame is that he is the former CEO of Safeco Insurance Company; fails WP:BIO. JChap (talk • contribs) 01:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Safeco had a $4.19B revenue and is a major company, especially in Washington state. A recent CEO is certainly notable, and his Senate run only increases his notability. I believe he should be viewed as a former CEO first and candidate second. SliceNYC 01:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - I agree with SliceNYC. - Richardcavell 01:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy keep. Easily meets WP:BIO, and would even if he were merely a Senate candidate and not the former CEO of one of the largest companies in Washington. VoiceOfReason 01:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy keep per above reasons. --Bobblehead 04:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable as a former CEO of a major corporation. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 06:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Certainly notable as former CEO but also the Washington State 2006 Senate race is a highly watched one for Senate control. Agne 06:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, CEOs come and go frequently. According to this site, Europe and United States CEOS last an average of 2.5 and 4.5 years respectively. Companies that have been in business for a while are likely to have a ton of ex-CEOs. Also, people running for office are rarely notable for doing so. Again, there is just a huge number of such individuals. For the U.S. House of Representatives, there are probably 700 to 1,500 failed candidates every two years, more if you do not count those who do not get past the primaries (the large range is due to the fact that smaller parties do not have a candidate for every seat). Also, we have had elections for the House for over two hundred years, although there were fewer Representatives in the past. Now, think about all of the failed candidates in other countries and countries that no longer exist, from the founding of the country to the current day or to the country's demise. Finally, some people want to include failed state, county and even mayoral candidates, which would be an even bigger number of people. -- Kjkolb 08:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: Kjkolb makes a very strong argument, but the super-rich are fairly uncommon and tend to go about their business behind the shade of anonymity. The guy is too high profile for everything else in his life to be just a candidate. There are irrelevancies in the article, and the structure isn't great, but the figure himself passes. Geogre 12:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment McGavick's net worth is between $36M and $65M. I agree with what you said, but as far as CEOs go he isn't "super-rich." Still a high-profile guy in two fields, however. SliceNYC 17:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow. It's a sad day when $65,000,000.00 doesn't make you super rich, but I believe you. It's still far enough up there that he qualifies for the company of "people who get things and whose names the public does not know." I hate to sound populist, but it is probably worthwhile to know who those folks are, as they keep popping up in industrial and financial contexts. Geogre 17:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

People who "get things"? Did the Money Fairy suddenly show up on McGavick's doorstep one day and hand him a big sack of rumpled $20s? For someone who "hates to sound populist", you sure are good at it. McGavick is notable by any objective standard. Were he merely a major party nominee for the Senate, he'd be notable, and were he merely the former CEO of a Fortune 500 company he'd be notable. This AfD is silly. VoiceOfReason 17:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you want to pick a quarrel, but I'm not really in the mood for it. I am not an expert on fairy largesse. I feel sure, though, that you will find someone to have an argument with, if you keep trying. Geogre 19:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep notable as former CEO of major company. NawlinWiki 16:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The combination of the senate race and the recent CEOship of a major company is notable. Vickser 20:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep even though he is at this point non notable, he probably will win the GOP senate primary. He also already has a masive campaign --Musaabdulrashid 22:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep He did an outstanding job turning Safeco around...won't win thje senate race, but good try. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.102.159 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 1 August 2006

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