Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mighty Psyducks

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete - per WP:SNOW. While there are two people who disagree the majority of their edits are just this page. Byond being quite obviously not notable. Its also possibly a conflict of interest. Myspace or some other social networking site would be better to promote their team. -Djsasso (talk) 19:39, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mighty Psyducks

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The team claims to be professional but gets four Google hits, and seems to have existed for only a year. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete No notability whatsoever. Zenlax T C S 19:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The Psyducks are not professional. Being a fan of the Psyducks I would be the first to tell you that the Psyducks are relevant and deserve to have a home on Wikipedia. Sure they are not notable everywhere, but in the Buffalo area, they are known too many. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that it was not required that something be globally known. The Mighty Psyducks are very much like a small british soccer club and I know many of them have wikipedia articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forskid (talk • contribs) 19:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually amateur British soccer clubs mostly don't have articles. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Please include in this deletetion request Patrick Thompson (hockey) who is notable only for playing in this team. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I love Wikipedia and am the first one to defend it, saying how closely monitored it is and that you can trust it for that reason exactly. I would not tell you that this article should be on Wikipedia if I didn't believe it with my whole heart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forskid (talk • contribs) 19:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE - it does not reach the minimum requirements for sports teams Gary King (talk) 20:13, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

-Gary, this is a team, not a single athlete—Preceding unsigned comment added by Forskid (talk • contribs) 20:17, 24 April 2008

    • I know, but I can't find the policy for teams for some reason (but I know that it mentions that the professional level must be reached, which is similar to WP:ATHLETE. Gary King (talk) 21:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable, no secondary sources.Renee (talk) 20:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep What defines a professional sports team? Merriam Webster defines it as a team or squad within an organized league with professional caliber players and a salary contract to binding players to there team. All of these are met by the GISHL and The Mighty Psyducks and they are only considered semi-pro. How dare you even question to presuppose that the Psyducks are no real team. If you saw the blood, sweat, and tears by the Mighty Psyducks you might realize that the Ducks are real. They even have jerseys. But because you have not heard of them they must not be real? NO. They are very real and by making this wikipedia article The Psyducks were merely trying to broaden there fanbase, popularity, and maybe help the GISHL out a little. MPaasch (talk) 20:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC) — MPaasch (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
"salary contract to binding players" Really? Their players have salaries? DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:58, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, really there is a salary for all players of the GISHL and a $10.00 dollar/per game salary was made the minimum wage as of June 27th, 2007 by the Grand Island Street Hockey League Players Association. Most funding for players is provided by various sponsors of teams and Team owners. The largest team sponsor is 84 Lumber, the official sponsor of The Mighty Psyducks. --MPaasch (talk) 21:16, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

— MPaasch (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. - note that MPaasch has now created an article about himself, Mike Paasch. I've db-speedied. Corvus cornixtalk 22:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  • KeepThe players are now technically considered semi-professional, and the club now professional. This means that they will probably be forced to leave the GISHL, because it is strictly amateur--Forskid (talk) 21:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)B. DeNormand
  • Delete unless reliable sources are forthcoming as to their notability. Only MySpace and gamebattles.com every heard of them. Nobody even heard of the "Grand Island Street Hockey League" except Wikipedia. Corvus cornixtalk 22:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. No sources; fails WP:V. Deor (talk) 22:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete Both: They even have jerseys? Errr ... every Little League town team in the country has jerseys. *I* have several hockey jerseys hanging in my closet. While I'm unsure as to the utility of "broadening their fanbase" (what, someone from Detroit's going to take in a game?), I'm sure that Myspace is sufficient to their needs. Wikipedia, however, requires reliable sources and notability, and this band of players in a beer league have neither.  RGTraynor  00:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete both players and team unless notability and references can be included. Note that there is a second article, now a redirect about Mr Paasch Mike paasch.
  • Delete — not at all notable (even though the team went from being "not professional" to "professional" in only two hours). ... discospinster talk 01:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete not only do they fail notability but "The Psyducks were merely trying to broaden there fanbase, popularity," definitely says they are using the article as "advertising" and therefore makes it spam. Jasynnash2 (talk) 11:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
  • The only two editors opposed to this deletion are now contradicting each other, and one has been blocked for vandalism. Are we ready for a snowball delete yet? DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.