Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michelle Madigan

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Coredesat 04:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michelle Madigan

Michelle Madigan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Individual notable for exactly one incident, which did not make it past specialty media. Calwatch 04:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - non-notable person; her embarrassing stunt at DefCon does not make her notable — reliable sources are necessary, but not sufficient, for notability. --Haemo 05:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Although there are quite a number of reliable sources for this subject, it fails notability guidelines. --Siva1979Talk to me 06:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Do Not Delete - There were three votes for non-deletion on the article's discussion page -- User:faulknerfan 14:08, 7 August 2007
  • Delete. This is a clear "coatrack" article -- the majority of the content of this biography of a living person consists of a description of a single incident, the importance of which is uncertain. --Metropolitan90 13:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not convinced at all of her notarity. The event seems mildly notable and should be covered in the [defcon] article. Dman727 14:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Slightly weak delete--I think Madigan and the incident may turn out to have long-term ramifications in the field of investigative journalism, but right now that can't be established. Propaniac 14:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Do Not Delete - The importance of this event in the computer security community can not be dismissed simply becuase NBC or the journalist are not fully disclosing what in fact occurred. Please note verifable references to articles within wired magazine.Suewhite 12:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete I dont think there is any "historic notability" to this person either Corpx 16:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete This is already adequately covered at the DEF CON article, so no merge is necessary. The essay WP:COATRACK describes this sort of article as being purportedly a biography (the coatrack) which is completely obscured by the one big embarassing incident someone wants to publicize (the coats). She seems to be a fine young reporter, and certainly one with perseverance, to stay until the bitter end and try to be "undercover" when she was outed and offered press credentials before entering the conference. If she continues her career and becomes as notable as Mike Wallace an article can be created, and this incident can be incorporated just as negative incidents are included in the Wallace article. Edison 16:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:COATRACK. Rememeber, notability is not temporary. As noted by Edison, if this reporter becomes bona fide WP:N, include this info there. If not, leave it at DEF CON. -- MarcoTolo 17:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, temporary notability, sure, but no long-term notability established. --Yamla 15:51, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Find a home, there is a topic here - Michelle Madigan v. DefCon: the morality of attempting to hack the hackers. humor:irony? JD 19:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment. Already has another home - DEF CON. While a small amount of material (a ref, perhaps) could be ported over there, frankly I'm not sure this "event" needs more than a sentence or two. -- MarcoTolo 21:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete No real notablity. The only claim to notability is a non-notable event at some hacker convention, but since the incident isn't notable, it can't be used as justification for this article existing and thus it should be deleted. Wikidudeman (talk) 06:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable within a fairly wide community, and it very likely the notabiity will continue. DGG (talk) 07:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.