Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Martinez

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Userfied. Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 23:04, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Martinez

Suspected Vanity--Rockero420 00:05, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment: Reads like vanity. Definitely autobiographical. No verification provided. Two links provided are both to sites by Michael Martinez. —ERcheck @ 00:16, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - see Wikipedia:Autobiography. A few self-published works? OK, so he's worked on search engine optimization - hey, lots of people have got jobs! Not notable enough I'm afraid. Camillus (talk) 00:18, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, more "typical" than "noteworthy". Royboycrashfan 00:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, vanity.JohnnyBGood 01:16, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's autobiographical. It's not intended to be vanity. I could certainly have added a great deal more detail. The majority of my published work is not self-published, just two of the three books mentioned. But if you're going to delete articles because of self-publication, you'll need to get rid of the articles on Mark Twain and a few other more notable people. Any objections to deletng the Twain article for the same reason?

And, yes, the two links are provided to sites by Michael Martinez. One is the official Michael Martinez Web site. Official Web site links are allowed, according to Wiki policy. The other link is to the site referred to in the article. That is also allowed under Wiki policy.Michael Martinez 04:25, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment: The links are may be acceptable for inclusion in the article as "External links", but are not independent references for verifying the information. —ERcheck @ 12:51, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Userfy Actually, I should have mentioned that this article was intended to be my user page article. I only noticed after it was created that it didn't end up where I intended it to be. Wikipedia policy does allow for articles to be userfy'd, too. Michael Martinez 04:40, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

* Delete MM is a famous troll from alt.tv.xena days, but that's not enough for an article Ruby 04:53, 11 February 2006 (UTC)*Userfy per article's creator. Ruby 05:36, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Ruby. I'm surprised to see you of all people call me an ATV troll.Michael Martinez 05:00, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Oh, did I mention the kettle was black? "I don't care what you've done in the past. Do good now, and you are good." -- Xena of Amphipolis in "Warrior...Princess...Tramp" Ruby 05:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Ruby, I was simply referring to my having defended you against the ATV trolls and bullies who attacked you incessantly. I wasn't calling you a troll. But perhaps your memory of that time is somewhat different from my own.Michael Martinez 05:11, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, for one thing I remember alt.tv.xena was called ATX not ATV. Ruby 05:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I have a cold, I'm sitting typing in the dark. ATX/ATV. They're on the same keyboard. Anyway, I'll appreciate your acknowledging my other mistake and misplacing what was intended as a user profile as a main article and changing your vote to userfy. Otherwise, I assume I'll have to wait out the 5-day discussion, let the article be deleted, and repost again to the user page.Michael Martinez 05:30, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. TheRingess 05:35, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Userfy as per Michael Martinez. BTW you can do that now. Capitalistroadster 07:50, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I have userfied this now and removed the AFD tag. Time to close this discussion? u p p l a n d 08:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Userfy and Delete.Gateman1997 09:00, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - page has already been userified. Remains only to delete Michael martinez, Michael Martinez, and Talk:Michael Martinez. Note that there is one comment on the last of those, with Michael suggesting that the article page should be kept, but since he has now agreed to userify the writeup I don't think we need to retain that. If someone disagrees it could possibly be merged into the history here or at his user talk page. --CBD ☎ ✉ 16:45, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.