Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Manning (priest)

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The result was delete. I may be looking in the wrong places, but a Google search for "Michael Manning priest" found nothing that establishes notability. May I also remind Elan26 that just because a famous publisher publishes something doesn't mean that the subject matter is automatically famous (see WP:INHERITED). Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 05:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Manning (priest)

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While this person has written a number of books and appeared as a guest on a number of talk shows, the article fails to reference wide citation of this person in their field. Creator may have a conflict of interest. Zero references cited in the article.Rtphokie (talk) 11:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- BelovedFreak 13:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. -- BelovedFreak 13:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Manning is a non-notable Roman Catholic priest. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 14:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Look, it's a really, really badly-written article. No footnotes. Terrible. However, the guy has notability. You have to google him a little carefully, with key words like Catholic because there are a lote of Michael mannings in the world. But he appears to be a legitimate personality within the North American Catholic community. Even the list of books on the page is lousy, mixing what appear to be pamphlets with at least one real book: Questions and Answers for Today's Catholic: A Catholic Answers Difficult. Note the publisher, Thomas Nelson. that alone would establish notability. This notability debate is probably unnecessary. Flag the article for needing improvement and keep it.Elan26 (talk) 16:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)Elan26
• Keep for the reasons Elan26 cited for keeping Fg2 (talk) 10:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Elan's reasons are compelling. In addition to web sources, there will be dead tree sources. GRBerry 13:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment I would consider withdrawing the AFD if some concrete sources could be located. So far we know he's published a book (more?) and written some pamphletes but there are still no verifiable 3rd party references showing this.--Rtphokie (talk) 14:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Amazon lists the book --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately simply being an author doesn't meet WP:CREATIVE which stats that the person must be regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors.
• Delete - Quick search didn't result in any worthy refs. Hooper (talk) 14:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - The article is 2 years old and completely unsourced, no sources whatsoever. Delete per WP:NOTABILITY.⇨ EconomistBR ⇦ Talk 20:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

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