Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Broadbent

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. - Mailer Diablo 13:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Broadbent

Another vague connection of the Arbuthnots. Not notable. "influential British wine critic and auctioneer" - aren't they all? The only ref: a family tree links to a site where yet again User: Kittybrewster is the webmaster advertising amongst other things "Broadbent Road Auto Repairs" don't bother to click it goes straight to Kittybrewster because "something has gone wrong!" This is getting beyond a joke. Delete or improve and sunstantiate claims made. Giano 14:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Oh, for...Delete. Influential wine critics aren't notable. And being a relative of Kittybrewster isn't either. I believe the principle is that if all these people were notable, somebody not a relative would add articles about them to Wikipedia. Bishonen | talk 14:30, 12 May 2007 (UTC).
  • Delete Non-notable. Take it to ancestry.com. Montco 15:20, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep (though obviously needing sourcing). I agree with Bishonen's view of wine critics, but I just checked NewsBank and he's been mentioned 167 times in UK newspapers since 1985. Being wine expert at Christie's, he's often involved in rare-wine stories: discoveries/authentication of antique wine, etc. Tearlach 15:46, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
.... but his family tree according to Kittbrewster - anyone researching him will be wondering about wine not deciding whether to breed from him.Giano 17:38, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Why not? Could be useful if you want a good stable of wine critics for a wine magazine. Provided the ability to judge wines is inherited, of course. Training probably has to begin at a tender age in any case. Pharamond 18:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: There is an article in the German Wikipedia with a bibliography showing that several of his books have been published in German. (The English article doesn't even have a list of publications, but I suppose it could be added.) Pharamond 18:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • keep seems to meet WP:BIO per [1]. Described by Decanter (magazine) [2] as "one of the international wine industry's most admired figures". --W.marsh 19:49, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:A and WP:BIO. Edison 21:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete — Per Bishonen. ~ Magnus animuM  BRAIN FREEZE! 21:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, the man is 80 and his prominence as a wine expert seems to have been mostly the 1970s and 1980s. Google Books results show sources to demonstrate his recognition by fellow oenophiles. (Many of them are to Grolier encyclopedia entries for which he was the author; filtering those out still gives many.) --Dhartung | Talk 23:04, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. "one of the international wine industry's most admired figures". He has authored several German books, and appears to be a global expert on wine. Sens08 00:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
"one of the international wine industry's most admired figures" Do we have an unbiased ref for that? Giano 08:02, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Meets WP:BIO. Ghits not a vital issue for someone whose career was likely mainly before the creation of the Web. --Charlene 04:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable wine critic with ample references to meet WP:BIO guidelines. RFerreira 04:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep one of the most influential wine critics of the past century. This guy mets WP:BIO by a far degree though admittedly this current article does him little justice. I'll try and take a look at this article this week to fix it up. AgneCheese/Wine 14:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Nomination withdrawn the page has now been referenced and justified. Giano 14:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep. Can I get some cheese with my wine, really? Burntsauce 17:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.