Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Axelrod
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was delete.--Ezeu 20:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Michael Axelrod
His 15 minutes of fame are up. He has sunk back into obscurity with no lasting effect on the world. Delete - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 15:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Comment 12600 Ghits--Jusjih 15:46, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, meets basic notability standards. Just because his 15 minutes are up doesn't mean he doesn't meet basic standards. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 15:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep If this article was purged, many other articles (Star Wars Kid, numa numa guy, and others) would be deleted. 15 minutes of fame can be notable. Yanksox 17:29, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- 15 minutes can be notable, if they're remembered and/or have an effect on the world. Norma McCorvey's 15 minutes were good. Ditto Mark David Chapman. Not Axelrod. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 18:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Mark David Chapman killed a man, not to mention a highly regarded singer/songwriter and Norma McCorvey was part of a monumental decision in the US Court system and reversed her decision. I'm not sure if that qualifies as 15 minutes of fame, if it has a lasting effect, it's not 15 minutes. Yanksox 19:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, the numa numa guy, Gary Brolsma, is a redir, and the star wars kid incident also had major reverberations in pop culture, incl. a parody on arrested development, etc. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 19:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- I still think your definition of 15 minutes of fame is drastically flawed. You listed people that have an impact. 15 minutes of fame has been and will be recorded into this site. You are trying to imply that 15 minutes of fame, something that has an importance that immedially goes away, has to be something that has lasting effects. There are many fades, and other events that quickly wash out but have articles here. Does that mean we should wipe out Jimstown because it doesn't have a lasting social effect? Yanksox 19:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- That probably shouldn't be a redirect. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 19:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- 15 minutes can be notable, if they're remembered and/or have an effect on the world. Norma McCorvey's 15 minutes were good. Ditto Mark David Chapman. Not Axelrod. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 18:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete/Merge - The only reason anyone has heard of this guy is because of the incident involving Antonio Davis. He should be mentioned there. - Hahnchen 18:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Expand and keep -
notable political consultant whowas involved in a sports fracas that made the news. His 15 minutes may be up, but that doesn't change the issue of notability.Also, with the rise of Barack Obama, it appears that another 15 minutes might be coming.B.Wind 19:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)- Comment - I do not think he is a notable political consultant. I think his father is, although not following US politics closely, I can not be sure. - Hahnchen 19:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's his dad. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 19:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- I stand corrected. My comments above are duly modified. Thanks to all. B.Wind 19:26, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's his dad. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 19:19, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Comment - I do not think he is a notable political consultant. I think his father is, although not following US politics closely, I can not be sure. - Hahnchen 19:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete nn. Even here in Chicago, his 15 minutes were pretty short. I imagine elsewhere he was barely a blip on the radar. Fan1967 21:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Strong delete - totally NN. Should every clown that gets a bit of TV time be on WP? --P199 21:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete So far as I can tell this guy is not notable beyond the fight itself. All relevant information is already covered in Antonio Davis. ScottW 23:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete This guy didn't even deserve the 15 minutes of fame he got, and this stub doesn't give any other reason for its existence. This isn't the phonebook: let him do something with some sort of actual impact and then he can get an actual biography. --Calton | Talk 02:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. He is not notable beyond the Antonio Davis incident, which is mentioned elsewhere. This was more like 30 seconds of fame that was repeated over and over on national television for a few days... Nowhere near enough for me. The coverage was centered around Davis, not this guy. He had no lasting impact. People that were the focus of whole international TV episodes are sometimes deleted. Many reasons for this. Grandmasterka 02:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete - sports figures getting into fights is not notable beyond the article on the specific sports figure. Now if there were a week without a sport figure getting into a fight, that would be notable... AnonEMouse (squeak) 16:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete A minor scuffle in the stands at a sports event. Not notable. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.