Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miami International Mall

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus to delete. W.marsh 15:22, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miami International Mall

Article does not assert notability of mall ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 21:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahiegel (talk • contribs)
• Delete. Malls and shops are generally not notable. See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Precedents#Cities_and_villages. --Metropolitan90 01:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep Notable due to huge size. I find the recent spate of mall AfD's to be simple anti-mall bias. Large malls are more notable than most museums documented on Wikipedia. I don't particularly love malls myself, but they are very notable institutions and centers of commerce. I don't like mid-level Nazi politicians of little real accomplishment, but I think they should be documented on Wikipedia. Simple distaste for the subject, and a view that different instance of the subject are a bit samey...does not suffice as a criterion for deletion when the subject is of clear note. The massive size of this mall makes it a feature in the lives of millions and clearly notable. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 01:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep It's much less trouble to accept these and encourage the development of good articles than to keep squabbling over them. Osomec 03:00, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
  • That is not a reason to keep. Vegaswikian 01:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Comment That may be well and true Bobby, but there's nothing in the article that asserts any sort of notability, any reference of what population shop there, etc. There's in fact no notable information about it at all other than it exists and a list of some stores ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 03:55, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the basic asserted grounds of notability is its large size - it has to have a huge shopping population if it can sustain that many active stores. Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 04:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Nothing in the article makes one think it is encylopedic. Vegaswikian 01:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Encyclopedias are reference books that deal with all fields of knowledge (the word comes from the Greek words enkyklios paideia, meaning general or well-rounded education). Since Wikipedia doesn't have very many size constraints, we can include a lot of stuff. Also, I'm not sure it's worth destroying someone else's work and alienating that person--who could be a contributor to other articles as well--over an issue as uncertain as notability. Something increadibly notable to a physicist may be non-notable to a chemist, for example.--Primetime 21:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.