Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Metropolitan Yeshiva High School League

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete both. Majorly (o rly?) 21:36, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metropolitan Yeshiva High School League

Metropolitan Yeshiva High School League (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

These organizations seem rather non notable. AniMate 01:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC) I am also nominating Metropolitan Yeshiva High School Hockey League as it is part of this non notable organization. AniMate 02:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Metropolitan Yeshiva High School Hockey League (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
  • Speedy delete per CSD A7, as the article does not assert the importance or significance of its subject. Seems someone has expanded the article. Even so, there are still no sources or references to verify the notability of the league.--TBCΦtalk? 01:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete per TBC. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 02:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete both per above. MER-C 02:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • weak keep both because the author should be given time to find sources. And nobody notified the author. There are enough Yeshivas in NYC that there might very well be a notable league, so the nom should perhaps have checked first. If still unsourced in 5 days, then delete.DGG 05:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
I know Google hits aren't the only yardstick we measure notability by, but I found a total of 18 hits for Metropolitan Yeshiva High School League and a total of 1,740 hits when adding in the Hockey League. AniMate 06:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
And I've notified all three people who have contributed to the articles. AniMate 06:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Regular Slow Delete. I declined CSD, notability is asserted. - NYC JD (objection, asked and answered!) 07:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletions. - NYC JD (objection, asked and answered!) 07:35, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete. - Denny 09:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Normal Delete - I live in Houston, Texas, so I don't know anything about this place. I just rewrote the page in a better style. Nickelodeon Rocks, the original writer of this page, has unofficially left Wikipedia, and hasn't made an edit for a week or two now. Anyway, this page is confusing & hard to follow, and contains some POVs. It seems in bad shape enough to delete. — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 14:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete; not notable. --Mhking 17:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep because this is notable and connected with other articles in Category:Jewish day schools and Category:Modern Orthodox Judaism and it fits into Category:High school sports associations in the United States with Catholic High School Athletic Association a sub-category of Category:High school sports in the United States with New York Catholic High School Athletic Association. No offense, but just because non-Jews have not heard of these things does not make it "non-notable." IZAK 21:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per IZAK - there seems to be a precedent for secondary school leagues having articles here. I would like to see a list of involved schools in the article so a sense of scope and context exists. --Mus Musculus 03:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per IZAK and precedent regarding schools. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 08:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: Mus Musculus is incorrect. The precedent is, in fact, for articles on the umbrella organizations for high school athletics within an entire state, and I am all for winnowing out those articles for smaller, splinter subgroups; I'm quite comfy with giving the CHSAA the heaveho too. That aside, no offense, IZAK, but just because something is known to a small percentage of Jews (sorry, that's a "small percentage of Jews interested in high school sports and living in the metro NYC area") doesn't make it "notable." The notability standards, as far as I understand them, have little to do with Judaism. RGTraynor 18:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Are there off-line sources that someone familiar with the topic could reference in the article? --Shirahadasha 20:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per RGtraynor. JoshuaZ 17:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep MYHSL, Merge/Redirect Hockey league to MYHSL. Size, scope and nature of league makes it notable. Article needs to be expanded to include history and other relevant information. Alansohn 06:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • delete Non-trivial mention of the the league in the press somewhere, in an article that establishes its importance to people outside the geographic area, should establish notability. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 13:07, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.