Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Metallicamate

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. Harro5 07:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Metallicamate

Subject is not notable. Google search[1] produces a mere 13 hits on four different rather obscure websites. The Big Day Out forum which is mentioned in the article is in itself unnoteworthy, and has at most a handful of sites linking to it. No news mention as far as I could tell. Jens Nielsen 07:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete not notable. Jens Nielsen 07:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Subject is perhaps the most significant local pop-culture reference on one of the largest music sites in Australia. Is frequently referenced humorously, and usage of his name and image has crossed over onto other local sites and is well-known within these communities. Article is a great reference point for those who do not fully understand the references. Metallicamate, although somewhat localised, is somewhat of an internet phenomenon in Australian music, and is often used to characterise certain elements of Australian music culture. Although internationally somewhat irrelevent, the article is certainly relevent and helpful to a large amount of users who are part of these mentioned communities. Esquared au 07:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• the big day out is the biggest music festival in australia and every year literally thousands of people visit it. this is noteworthy. why be a snob?

Bear in mind that wikipedia has a global audience, and ought not have everything about local affairs in it. See the official wikipedia policy: Wikipedia:Notability (people). He's not a major local (political) figure as I can determine, has received no significant (any?) press coverage, though he may, as your argue have been achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events. Have a good look at the criteria. It's not my decision to delete it, others will have to respond too. Meanwhile, work on improving the article as much as you can. If you make it a well worked-out article in conformity with wikipedia norms (including verifiability), there's a good chance it won't be deleted even if sub-notable. Good luck!

Jens Nielsen 08:46, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep if references are provided. Grafikm_fr 08:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete archvanity. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 09:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete the heck out of this per Ghirla. Let me get this straight: all this guy is is an obscure blogger, and that's why he's supposed to be notable? We're not talking about whether Big Day Out is notable. We're not even talking about whether a bulletin board associated with Big Day Out is notable. We're seriously talking about whether a registered user on the forum based on Big Day Out is notable? Yikes. RGTraynor 16:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

The point is not that he is a blogger, the point is that in Australian music he is somewhat of an internet phenomena, something that is still referenced and discussed daily, and is a story that many people still need explained to them very often. You're completely ignoring the wider circumstances around this article - it's not simply a registered user on a forum, and to trivialise it down to that is just plain ignorant. It's like saying "all your base" is just the opening sequence of some obscure game. Esquared au 00:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Other people have addressed the point: that if this guy was actually any sort of Internet phenomenon, he would have generated Google hits. Some G-hits. Any G-hits. And not just a couple posts from four forums, one of which is shut down, one of which pulls an Alexa ranking of over five million, one of which pulls a mere 300K+. But if you have any evidence of notability, feel free to bring it out! RGTraynor 07:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Possible speedy as A7 biography. This is a user of a webforum who doesn't even visit any more apparently. Has had absolutely no impact on wider Australian culture. Capitalistroadster 21:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Possible speedy as A7 biography as per User:Capitalistroadster --A Y Arktos\^talk 22:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per RGTraynor. --Bduke 22:12, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 21:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete -- Longhair 22:44, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. As far as I can tell, Metallicamate is just the nickname used by some guy who posted on a web forum. An Internet phenomenon would yield more than 18 Google hits. [2] "All your base are belong to us", by comparison, yields 985,000 Google hits. [3] --Metropolitan90 02:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Five of which are unique English entries. Fagstein 06:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete nn pop webcruft.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 03:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Not all debates can be solved by Google, Deep Blue. Someday you'll learn that. MrAngy 04:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
  • But if he's an Internet phenomenon then surely he must have serious Google hits? Fagstein 06:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
    • A LOCAL one. These forums do not have all of their pages on google, and there aren't flash cartoons on humour sites. This does not stop it from being a frequently discussed (and queried) topic. The fact that over 2 years later he is still brought up in discussions and other things such as photoshop activities, etc. is testament to the ongoing relevence of the subject, whether this is put on google or not.

• Comment: Fair enough; so Google is for some reason ignoring these websites. Mind providing us some links so we can see for ourselves? RGTraynor 16:59, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as insufficiently notable. Fagstein 06:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as non-notable. --Roisterer 14:30, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per complete failure of WP:BIO. As a side note, User:MyNameIsNotBob speedied this version of the page: [4] as vandalised by User:Lollol445566. I reverted the page but restored his speedy to the current version because there is no real assertion of notability here.--Isotope23 20:27, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Could also qualify as speedy as an attack page.--Isotope23 20:28, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

• • • Since there is an AfD underway, and it has been going for more than 24 hours, the article probably should not be speedied. It should be undeleted so that people can review the merits of the article and this debate can be concluded appropriately.--A Y Arktos\^talk 21:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per nom. I tried to have this artcle speedied as User:Isotope23 mentions above. This is a spam page and definitely should be deleted. User:Lollol445566 should be warned as such about vandalism to wikipedia, a block may be appropriate. MyNameIsNotBob 06:57, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.