Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melanie Morgan (singer)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete as per WP:BIO and WP:Music - non-notable singer. (aeropagitica) 08:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melanie Morgan (singer)

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Not-notable singer; fails WP:MUSIC. All the sources included are from her websites; there is no indication that she is known beyond her MySpace and her self-published Sonicbids website. The closest she comes to notable is being nominated for (didn't win) a small-time, Eastern Canada award and the unconfirmed claims of getting in the top 100 of Canadian Idol and having her songs "played numerous times on Canadian radio stations." Her album is not available through Amazon or other vendors; it doesn't have an entry at AllMusic. The article is written anecdotally, which further cements in my mind the problem that there are no third-party sources included. Delete. Dylan 22:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Melanie is not yet well known, I know that. I think we all know that. But she's played on the radio all around Canada and she now has a music video on CMT. She's going to become well known, why delete this when it will be up again in a couple of months.

I know Melanie personally. There are linked articles on my created article of Melanie that do state that she made it to the top 100 of Canadian Idol. I put alot of work into this article, it's not against any rules, other than what you say that she's not well known. I'm trying to contribute and like I said she will be well known. Theres no need to rant about her not having success, its both rude and disrespectful towards her and her family. She is trying her hardest to become nationally known. She has a CD out, a music video out, she's met and has singers like George Canyon, Sherly Albert on her MySpace.

Also, I wanted to put this article up for her to get more known around the world. Maybe someone who is in the music industry would see her on here and next thing you know she'd be #1 on the top ten charts.

Therefore, I see the deletion of this article (which I have put hard work into, translating each and every word into my own words) inappropriate and you saying this article does not fit the standards of Wikipedia is a disgrace. I realise thats your own opinion, but just because you (Dylan) have reported MY article, doesn't mean that it should be deleted. I do not see anyone else signing it, you don't own Wikipedia. I've been a wikipedia user here for a long time and plan on being for a much longer time.

Thank You. WWEFreak666 21:24, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment First of all, WWEFreak, please understand that this AfD is not intended as a personal affront against you or Melanie Morgan. My discussion of her relative lack of fame is a demonstration that this article fails to meet the policies required of all Wikipedia articles, not a "rude and disrespectful" insult to her. I appreciate your contributions and I know you are contributing in good faith, but please read WP:MUSIC and WP:Notability for more information on the notability requirements of Wikipedia articles.

Regarding two of your objections: that she may become more famous in the future is not a reason why we might keep article; she isn't now, and that's all that matters as far as Wikipedia is concerned. The other thing is that I can appreciate from a marketing standpoint how Wikipedia may be a valuable tool, but this is an encyclopedia, not an advertising service: see what Wikipedia is not for more.

And finally, listing this article for deletion is the opposite of a unilateral decision on my part. I have nominated it, and I make no pretenses of "owning" Wikipedia. The purpose of AfD is to start a discussion to reach a community consensus. You just happened to be the first user to stop by this page and comment, but it's meant for everyone who wants to go ahead and chime in.

I can understand your concern in losing your hard work. If you like, I can show you how to archive the page in your own userspace so that it isn't lost, and it can be restored if Morgan as a biography subject ever fulfills Wikipedia's requirements. Dylan 20:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

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