Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mckee library

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jaranda wat's sup 21:41, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mckee library

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Failed prod. No assertion of notability of this library is made. No reliable sources are cited. MKoltnow 17:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete, nonnotable college library building. NawlinWiki 17:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete libraries are not inherently notable Corpx 17:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete A small college library, and not intrinsically notable, and not notable for anything in particular. . DGG (talk) 20:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, If the library is historical or architecturally significant then keep it, but since the article does not state either of those nor does it have sources, then get rid of it. Callelinea 22:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand This article discusses the library of a major Seventh-Day Adventist University. The article needs completion, but it definitely should not be deleted.--Honorarysouthernstudents 04:26, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • There are plenty of libraries at plenty of universities. This one's not any different. Corpx 04:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
I have userified it at User:Honorarysouthernstudents/McKee Library Some of the material could be used for the article on the university, which really needs work. Even for the most important of libraries, discussing the rearrangement of books would be excessive detail. DGG (talk) 05:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Corpx is wrong. The Thomas Memorial collection, with many rare books and artifacts relating to the Civil War, makes the McKee Library highly unique. This article has been expanded to show the library's notability; Not only does it contain the Thomas Memorial Collection, it also houses a major collection of Ellen White materials (over 20,000 volumes), who was probably the single most important figure in Seventh-Day Adventist History. Do not delete this article! (Furthermore, reliable sources are now cited)--Honorarysouthernstudents 13:47, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment Reliable sources to determine the notability of a university library cannot include the university's own website. They are fine for verifiability of facts in the article but carry no weight as to notability. If every garage band or company with a website could establish notability through its own website, the encyclopedia would be full of articles which are totally unencyclopedic. Also, Honorarysouthernstudents has already registered a vote, and has not mentioned his/her position as creator of this article. MKoltnow 15:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment: 1 - we're not 'voting', we're discussing. 2 - he was replying to another's comment. 3 - it was fairly obvious from his comments that he was likely the creator while you didn't mention that you called for speedy deletion when this article was 1 minute old and just a stub. Canuckle 21:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Meta-comment (referring to 1,2 above) When I referred to 'vote', I used that term because s/he prefaced "Corpx is wrong." with "Keep". To be fair, the "Keep" has been removed by Honorarysouthernstudents. (referring to 3 above) I don't know whether it was obvious that s/he was the creator, but WP:AFD asks editors to please disclose when they are primary authors or have a vested interest in the article. I do not think that I have any conflict of interest as the editor who marked an article for speedy deletion (incorrectly with a7, see my talk page) then proposed it for deletion to fail to disclose that I am the editor who nominated it under AfD. As far as the length of time before my initial decision, I make many quick decisions to nominate articles for speedy deletion; this one was no exception. Sometimes I am just wrong; most of the time the articles head quickly for the bin. I added my comment after [1] this appeared on my talk page, placed by Honorarysouthernstudents. MKoltnow 02:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the additional context. It's typically helpful to get a full picture. I didn't say your actions were wrong or COI but that it's helpful for all relevant info to be disclosed and we're supposed to help newbies. Regards - Canuckle 22:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge Lincoln collection content to McKee Library (spelled with capital-K) section of Southern Adventist University. hours and temporary places to find books during renovations will not survive the passage of time. Reliable, independent sources are required to grow the content. Canuckle 21:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.