Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maxime Giroux

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Davewild (talk) 10:36, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maxime Giroux

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nn film director, only won one minor award, currently fails WP:BIO and isn't the subject of non-trivial, indpendent sourcs Delete This is a Secret account 18:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete 1,620 hits on Yahoo ... but unless I missed something, there's not a reliable source among them. Blueboy96 18:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Change to Weak keep after reading that story in La Presse (yes, I speak French as well). Could use more sources, though ... Blueboy96 13:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. A minor award? Check out the Toronto International Film Festival. Phil Bridger 20:02, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
    • It's a minor award in the Film Festival, anyways where are the non-trivial, indpendent sources to back it up. This is a Secret account 20:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Question Do you speak French? Does this count toward notability? There's other stuff available here. Zagalejo^^^ 21:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
    • The first article said that he's an up and coming director, it's from La Presse (Canada) it's one reliable source though, the rest are quick mentions of him winning the award, farely trivial. This is a Secret account 21:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Answer French is my mother tongue, and yes, this counts as a reliable source for notability. Cyberpresse is to French Canada what MSNBC is to the US. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 00:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. NN. b/c a best short @ Toronto doesn't make a film notable, so if it's the most notable film of a directors they prob. aren't notable either (at least not as a director). Even if the film was notable (has become a significant monument, has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, has won significant critical attention, or is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries, museums or internationally significant libraries [see Wikipedia:Notablity]) the director should be ...regarded as an important figure or widely cited by their peers or successors....known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.... True theory 23:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
To quote WP:BIO: " a person is generally notable if they meet any of the following standards... The person has received significant recognized awards or honors." The Genie is the highest film honour Canada has, and as someone who works in the film industry I would say that given TIFF's mammoth stature its award for best short film is arguably the third most important short film award in the world, after the Oscar for Best Short and the Palmes d'or for best short. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Notability is asserted and shown from reliable sources. --Blanchardb-MeMyEarsMyMouth-timed 00:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
    • One reliable source doesn't mean an article is valid, it needs multiple though. This is a Secret account 17:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Our guidelines don't require multiple reliable sources -- one in-depth secondary source is sufficient. --A. B. (talk) 18:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes it does, see WP:N, multiple secondary sources are prefered. This is a Secret account 23:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Although it also says, "The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources." Zagalejo^^^ 00:50, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Multiple sources are preferred. Only one source is required. Bearcat (talk) 23:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep -- notable per above. Note also that a Google News archive search turns up 54 press mentions --A. B. (talk) 18:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Winning an award from the Toronto International Film Festival counts as notable enough in my books, even if it seems like a minor award in the scheme of the whole festival. Not to mention that two minutes of expansion research turned up a list of musicians for whom he directed videos: Sarah Harmer, The Dears, Sam Roberts, Les Cowboys Fringants, Louise Forestier? And on top of that, he won a fricking Genie Award as well. That's a keep, guys. Bearcat (talk) 23:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. GJ (talk) 00:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Delete a Genie Award-winning director? On what grounds, exactly? Bearcat (talk) 00:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - notability established by Genies and Toronto International Film Festival. Ground Zero | t 00:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:NOTFILM WP:BIO. The Genie is Canada's national film award and TIFF is one of the world's premiere film festivals. That it "only" won in the short film category at TIFF can hardly be held against it. Moreover, Cyberpresse is eminently reliable and notable. It is the web portal of La Presse, the largest French daily in the Western Hemisphere and one of Canada's most respected publications. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - Meets WP:BIO with awards and recognition as evidenced by Genie and Toronto international Film Festival awards. -- Whpq (talk) 18:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.