Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matthew Charlton

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The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 talk 13:21, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Matthew Charlton

NB: This debate also covers the fate of the child page The Cosmology of Love. If the vote is keep, a separate VFD for this latter page can then be recreated if so decided. Manning

I see that all his works are "self-published". No claim to fame other than poetry and being an "activist". I did a google and most hits were unrelated people with the same name. Many of "What links here" appear to have been going for another person of the same name. Having self-published works does not make one notable. Thus, Delete. Friday 19:30, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Delete As above. --PhilipO 19:44, 21 July 2005 (UTC) Delete nn. --R.Koot 20:44, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I dispute your redirect suggestion - the suggested redirect is not to the same person. Manning 04:55, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
It doesn't have to be the same person. Redirects are not only used for duplicate articles; a title which can be reasonably expected to be a common spelling error for the notable person's name can still be made a redirect even if it was originally created for a different non-notable person. Bearcat 18:09, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. If he's good, we'll see him again in a few years. Denni☯ 00:10, 2005 July 22 (UTC)
  • Comment. According to what links here and my recollection, Matthew Charlton was the leader of the Federal Australian Labor Party in the 1920's and was Federal Leader of the Opposition in Australia. This page prepared by Adam Carr who I understand is a Wikipedian in good standing [1] shows that he was leader of the Opposition between 1922 and 1928 when he resigned due to ill-health. I will rewrite the article tonight. Capitalistroadster 00:36, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete unless rewritten to be about the notable guy above. --Etacar11 01:02, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as redirect to Mathew Charlton (the Australian politician), which it was until it was recently vanitydalized by an admirer of the young acticist-poet of this name. Uppland 05:24, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. I have looked at the Australian Dictionary of Biography entry for Charlton the ALP politician which lists him as being Matthew Charlton. Ross McMullin's book on the history of the Labor Party refers to him as Matt Charlton. If the aspiring poet gets deleted, I would propose moving the Mathew Charlton article to Matthew Charlton. If we decide that the poet is notable, then Matthew Charlton should be a disambiguation article with entries for Matthew Charlton (politician) and Matthew Charlton (poet). Capitalistroadster 06:59, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, WP:VAIN. Radiant_>|< 14:21, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Does not seem to meet WP:BIO at this time. I find only two www links for him. One as a losing candidate in a UofT EngSoc election and the other in a blog of someone who the blogger met and gave him the Cosmology book which he describes as having "some good stuff in there". DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:05, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Move Mathew Charlton to this article space as per Capitalistroadster. Google has a few hits for the Australian politician as Mathew but most as Matthew including believable ones like [2], [3], & [4]. DoubleBlue (Talk) 15:05, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete vanity. JamesBurns 03:20, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep Although whoever wrote this article didn't have complete information and did a half-ass job, I'll vouch for Matt. He's an important part of the queer community in his writing, poetry and art here in the city of Toronto. I'm a social worker who loves poetry and I have worked with Matthew before. He has won a few awards even here in Toronto for his poetry and speeches. He was reviewed in Word too many years back to note on the web and has been quite involved in the small press community in Toronto. His collection "The Cosmology of Love" has been read and even discussed at science fiction conventions. I believe Robert Charles Wilson has openly acclaimed Matthew's work. I wouldn't presume that just because a person doesn't have an instantaneously strong online presence that he/she is not notable. (Unsigned vote by Apoetical (talk · contribs), user's first edit)
    • Can you add information to the article with verifiable sources to show his importance and that his work has been reviewed? DoubleBlue (Talk) 16:04, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment: I'm also a gay man who lives in Toronto, and I can't vouch for Matthew being notable enough to merit an encyclopedia entry — I've never heard of him, and queer Canadian literature is one of my areas of expertise. (That said, I have added categories to the article; that shouldn't be construed as a vote in favour of keeping.) No vote. Bearcat 18:15, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete I agree with User:Capitalistroadster's comment of 22 July 2005. However, the poet should be deleted as for now. There is plenty of time to add him to WikipediA at a later stage. Let him win some notable prices for his poetry first. For the time being Mathew Charlton written Matthew Charlton should be found here. --Marbot 09:29, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Keep- Hi I'm Matt's ex girlfriend from grade school. I say keep because this boy has been through a lot and deserves even the most tiny recognition of his gifts and skills. I know he isn't famous, but that doesn't mean the world wouldn't benefit from knowing a little more about him- Cait (Unsigned vote by 64.231.202.232 (talk · contribs), user's first edit)

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