Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Moulthrop

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete the article; consensus is for merging but it remains unclear where to. That's a matter for editors to sort out. Sandstein 07:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Matt Moulthrop

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3rd generation woodturner. Talented, but not up to WP:BIO. Deiz talk 10:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete per WP:BIO. STORMTRACKER 94 11:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as lacking independent sources establishing encyclopaedic notability. Cruftbane 11:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Elonka's merge makes good sense. Cruftbane 21:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Notability sufficient to meet WP:BIO inclusion standards cannot be properly verified. -- Satori Son 12:53, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Whether a Moulthrop family article should be created I will leave to others, but this single individual does not yet meet the notability requirements of WP:BIO. -- Satori Son 13:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails the notability standards for people and notability is not inherited. NASCAR Fan24(radio me!) 15:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge Matt Moulthrop and the article about his father Philip Moulthrop into the grandfather's article Ed Moulthrop. Or, make a "Moulthrop family" article. There's definitely a notable subject here overall, and the work (and family) have been the subject of multiple articles, especially in the Atlanta Journal Constitution:
  • November 24, 2005: "VIZARTS: Knock on wood - FOR THE MOULTHROPS, CRAFTING SLEEK DESIGNS IS ALL IN THE FAMILY"
  • September 25, 2003: "ATLANTA CRAFTSMAN/ARTIST: ED MOULTHROP: 1916-2003: Finding the glory in wood - He brought ancient craft into realm of art"
The work is well-known enough that I also found mentions in articles in other states/countries. I'm not convinced that each family member is individually notable enough for a separate article, but one article covering all of them would seem sufficient, and then if any one of them becomes further individually notable, a separate article can easily be split out at that time. --Elonka 18:23, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Elonka. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge Elonka's got a good idea, there. I'd also suggest creating redirects from the individuals to the new article on the family, as they would be reasonable search terms. LaMenta3 19:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. (1) There is an entire book on Matt and his family: Moulthrop: A Legacy in Wood (2007). (2) Very likely sufficient biograpy material in woodworking magazines, which those in this AfD have not addresses. Of course the Atlanta International Museum of Art and Design is going to write up significant details on Matt's life in the Museum's magazines since the Museum features his work. (3) Further, there are significant Google books hits. In addition, Matt is detailed in (4) Fox, Catherine. (April 27, 2003) The Atlanta Journal-Constitution A burnished and beautiful legacy. Section: Arts; Page M1. (5) The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (May 18, 2003) AccessAtlanta summer guide: Vizarts. Section: accessAtlanta; Page S30. (writing: "Atlanta International Museum of Art and Design:"Turning, the Moulthrop Legacy: Three Generations of Innovation in Wood." Works in turned wood by Ed, Philip and Matt Moulthrop. Family night takes place 6-8 p.m. June 5."); (6) Fix, Catherine. (September 25, 2003) The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Atlanta craftsman/artist: Ed Moulthrop: 1916-2003: Finding the glory in wood, he brought ancient craft into the realm of art. Section: Features; Page E1. -- Jreferee t/c 13:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • That would support Elonka's idea, I think. All these seem to consider the three together. Cruftbane 14:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • No, it supports Matt Moulthrop being its own, independent article. Also, since it presents significant references not considered by others who support merge, the merge discussion has been rebutted by this keep argument and the article should be kept. -- Jreferee t/c 19:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge I propose merging some of the information from the whole family into the article woodturning. Muntuwandi 03:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per per Elonka. Its a good idea to merge the article into woodturning. Amartyabag TALK2ME 04:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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