Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Massa Qoussa

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Coredesat 03:13, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Massa Qoussa

Massa Qoussa (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Clear hoax. Google returns big fat goose egg. Prod removed by author. JuJube (talk) 23:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Yup, it's a hoax. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 23:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Am I missing something here, like his name being an obvious obscene pun? Fail to see how you all jump to the conclusion that this is a hoax based on a one minute [1] Roman alphabet language internet search of a single French-style transcription of the name of an African Muslim who travels around telling stories in places that aren't well represented on the internet. cab (talk) 04:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Because if it's as well known as the article says it was, it would have been written about by at least some African Muslim scholars. World societies no longer exist in a vacuum. JuJube (talk) 05:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
    • A very weak assumption, that a single use of the word "legendary" by a new user whose native language is likely not English implies that this man should be well-known enough to be written about by scholars in English (and that any such academic coverage would be under the name and transcription used as the title of the article --- Qoussa/Qussa being a generic Arabic term for a storyteller, as I understand, that means the article is called "Massa the storyteller"). Massa Qoussa may just be an average travelling entertainer --- some of whom are notable, others who are not. (And I have no objection to the default assumption that someone is non-notable unless sources are provided to show otherwise). But it's extremely premature to call "hoax" (IMO a violation of WP:AGF and WP:BITE) and it's disappointing to see others jumping on that bandwagon based on the flimsiest of evidence. cab (talk) 06:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
• Delete unless some reference can be provided to establish notability. I don't think it's a hoax, but I'm not sure whether the subject is a real person - "legendary" could mean an archetypal wandering story-teller about whom there are legends, rather than a real one who is famous. JohnCD (talk) 11:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for the discoussion. I am sorry to have taken your time with this folkloristic person or person. I have heard about him so many places in the muslim world, so he can not be one single person, but I never actually met a Massa Qoussa. Notability is unprovidable, since he is moving amongst common nonacademic people. The spelling Qoussa differs from the word qussa, but this spelling have many possibbilities in arab and muslim-afro countries, Qoussaï being a common one, and as well as Qoussa a traditional name for a storyteller. But again, no authorised documentation, so untill then, please delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by author.195.47.134.17 (talk) 20:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC) Sorry, it sshould be: person or persons. Written by author, Nyamhawa.--195.47.134.17 (talk) 20:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete- "Notability is unprovidable"- if that is the case (which the creator himself states) then this is a clear cut case of deletion. Rigby27 Talk 00:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.