Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryam Jameelah (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. C. Logan says it better than I could. No substantial improvements in wake of first AfD. No edits to article that could have established better claim to notability than "Jewish American woman who converted to Islam" during six days on AfD. Daniel Case 04:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maryam Jameelah

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the article itself shows no evidence of any notability. While there was a previous afd, no notability has been established within the article. Most of the "evidence" is claims of notability like "notable convert", or "important convert," but no notability has been established or shown within the article itself. Sefringle^Talk 05:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep: writer of many books. Hu 06:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

are any of them notable?--Sefringle^Talk 06:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete She's written books, but that doesn't mean she's a notable author. Also, a very important thing to take note ofis that the article is not about her biography as an author, it's about her conversion to Islam. The article presents itself in such a way as to suggest that she is notable as a convert to Islam (as written in the first sentence), and that her books are simply a detail ofher conversion. I say that unless it can be substantiated that she's a notable author the article should be deleted, but if it's kept then it would need serious cleanup/rewording so as to focus on her career rather than her conversion.Calgary 06:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - very few individuals are notable for their conversion, and the attempt to force notability in instances such as this is a bad sign. Conversion is non-notable, except in instances like Abdul Rahman's. Writing books as well does not make you notable- it's not as magical as everyone things it is. This seems like an ordinary woman whom certain individuals felt was rather worth noting, and I believe agenda has a lot to do with it. Unless something with more substance can be provided to verify notability, then I'm afraid this lady, no matter how prolific she may be in writing her books, needs to go.--C.Logan 00:04, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not very many ghits (for an American). Most links are in the range of Jews for Allah anyways.Bakaman 01:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete No notability, no credible sources.Proabivouac 01:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep on the basis of WorldCat, showing that her major works are each in about 75 or so university libraries. I don't think this is enough a a sole criterion, but it suggests there will be reviews. ...to continue tomorrow. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DGG (talk • contribs) 09:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.