Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvel Movie Universe

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 15:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marvel Movie Universe, Marvel Movie Universe Timeline

These articles consist of original research and speculation. Apparently someone has a personal theory that recent Marvel films are set in the same continuity. This is unsourced, and in any case an examination of the films will show this is not true. Marvel Movie Universe#Differences actually notes the continuity problems without giving the simple reason for this: vis. they are not actually set in the same universe. Further, the Marvel Movie Universe Timeline article is based around the assumption that these films were set in the year of their release, which is not true. I'd have like to see these fixed if possible, but fundamentally there is no reliable sourcing here, and there is no 'Marvel Movie Universe' in this sense. (A supposed statement by Stan Lee, before most of the films here were made doesn't remotely cut it. Morwen - Talk 15:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Fancruftasaurus. Auto movil 16:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete this fancruft. It's speculative, it invokes POV, it's chock full of OR, and it isn't even logical. It hinges on inappropriate assumptions regarding continuity between unconnected movies that aren't even all produced by the same film company. Doczilla 17:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Speculative POV OR, plus it's wrong, wrong, wrong. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 18:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, completely idiotic fabrication. Postdlf 18:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete both. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 18:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, sourcing issues, these articles are original research as stands. Hiding Talk 18:08, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per above --Mhking 18:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete - This is 100% original research; no such thing exists as continuity between Marvel films. --Nehwyn 18:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Maybe the author was trying to earn a No-Prize? Postdlf 20:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This is a good list of movies based on Marvel characters. Perhaps it ought to be renamed, but I don't see much wrong with it. --Pinkkeith 21:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
  • No, List of Marvel Comics films is a good list of movies based on Marvel characters. The articles for consideration, as everyone above stated, and as is obvious from the articles themselves, are a completely OR attempt to imagine a shared continuity between the films where there isn't one. Postdlf 21:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Delete changed per above. --Pinkkeith 22:25, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The assumption that all these movies take place in the same universe isn't based on any kind of fact that I can see. Stephen Day 22:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - This statement (by Marvelboy) - "Originally, Stan Lee did not want the movies set in the same universe, but in an interview made when blade was released, he said that all upcoming Marvel movies will be set in the same universe." - obviously would require a citation. If it turns out to be true, then Marvel Movie Universe, is salvageable, and should be Kept. If not, then it's blatant WP:OR and should be deleted. - jc37 22:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Note though that Stan Lee has no creative relationship to the films (beyond the fact that he created most of the actual characters etc) - he is not their writer, director or producer, and his statements can't override their actual content, and in any case this statement pre-dates the release of all but one of the films (Blade being the first in the current crop to be released). He may be declaring his intent here, but yes, before-the-fact. Thus, if we can verify this statement then its certainly worth mentioning on List of Marvel films or somesuch, but shouldn't be used to hang these articles off. Morwen - Talk 09:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Marvel Movie Universe Timeline, as blatant WP:OR, and a rather duplicative list of List of Marvel Comics films. - jc37 22:31, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.