Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martha Hart

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 18:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Martha Hart

Martha Hart (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Likely speedy Wife of pro wrestler, wrote a book, but clearly notable.—Gaff ταλκ 00:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete — (Gaff, did you mean "clearly non-notable"?) :) The article is not notable whatsoever. The wife of a pro-wrestler doesn't make her notable per WP:BIO. Plus, it has no sources which I couldn't find. *Cremepuff222* 00:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Un-notable and unreferenced. Escape Artist Swyer | Talk to me 00:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete- per all of the above. Eddie 01:13, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not even notable in relation to the Alberta Children's Hospital, the "Alberta hospital" that she does charity work for. (I like how it's written as if there were only one hospital in Alberta. Some days it seems like it.) --Charlene 03:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 15:10, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. The article needs to be expanded, but Martha Hart is a notable figure, not only through creating a charity in the wake of Owen's death, but also for writing that book and also for her legal challenges against the WWE. The fact the article doesn't reflect any of this is a sign that the article needs to be improved, not deleted. 23skidoo 00:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep plenty of articles written about her in relation to Owen's death, her lawsuit against the WWE, the settlement, the controversial anti-wwe/wrestling book she wrote and more - like 23skidoo points out the state of the article is sad, it should be improved not deleted as the subject fullfils the notability requirement, a quick search will tell you that MPJ-DK 08:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep + Expand - I see an interesting article here, it certainly needs improvement. But yes... there is an interesting article here. You can gather lots of references too. There is certainly going to be notability and if done right. There is enough citation on the internet on various news websites. Not only that, I think I will add a few things on the article to help out. Govvy 14:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Not only wife of Owen and sister in law to Dynamite Kid, British Bulldog and Bret Hart, her book is the only family source for the Owen accident, one of the major wrestling events of the last decade. The article just needs some expanding and sourcing. Darrenhusted 15:45, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per above reasons...article just needs to meet WP:V in order to meet policy, I believe this is something that can easily be done. - T-75|talk|contribs 15:56, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, I'm in agreement that this article's current form is pretty poor. However, like the previous couple of people said, this article can easily be cleaned up and sourced. If it survives, I'll make it one of my projects. Nikki311 16:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment, I went through the article just now, cleaning it up and adding very minor sourcing. Like I said, this will be one of my projects if it survives, and I plan to expand it. Nikki311 16:54, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep I'm always willing to vote to keep an article that I firmly believe is savagable---especially if there is somebody committed to fixing the problems...Balloonman 20:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Current version of the article does not substantiate claims to notability. Burntsauce 22:15, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete A few minor mentions of her in news articles fails to meet WP:BIO. One Night In Hackney303 05:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Comment, even if the news article is about her? What about the three books? Nikki311 16:12, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment What news article are you talking about? I've checked every link in the article, and none of them are about her, they are all about events subsequent to Owen Hart's death. Ditto for the books, none are about her. The entire article is based around one event, the death of Owen Hart. That is not sufficient for a standalone article about her. One Night In Hackney303 16:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment hmmmmm I'd say her lawsuit against the WWE makes it about her, I say articles about her settlement with the WWE and how she is using it is about her - why not fight a fight you can win? there are plenty of sources listed on the page now, go see if Chinese checkers is properly sourced or something? MPJ-DK 17:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Not really, all the articles are about events. There's little biographical information about her still, the whole story is the events following Owen's death. One Night In Hackney303 17:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment, which is why the article needs to be expanded, not deleted. Nikki311 22:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Main claim of notability is being the wife of a professional wrestler, which is not instantly notable. If anything of value is here, it can be merged to the Owen Hart page. Biggspowd 00:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable for suing the WWF and collecting money for it, also a published author. Being a wrestler's wife is the icing on the cake. Impeccably well-referenced to boot. —freak(talk) 00:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per freakofnurture, multiple and verifiable claims to notability in triplicate satisfy WP:BIO guidelines. Yamaguchi先生 04:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.