Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Moya

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. The comment of Michael Starke is excluded for many reasons, including his mention in the article as a comtemporary of Moya's. The only other Keep comment relies solely on Starke and is, hence, discounted. The consensus for deletion is unanimous. Xoloz 19:58, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Moya

Non notable under wiki guidelines for notability Stirling Newberry 14:55, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Previously listed for deletion and removed by anonymous IP address.

No CDs, no works listed in peforming rights organizations, no reviews or articles except in midi fan pages.

• Delete per nomination; fails Wikipedia notability guidelines. Antandrus (talk) 17:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I think the editorial guidelines for notability, as listed, are unrealistic and outmoded. You are applying old world qualifications to new world media. Every person with an interest in Early Music who has Internet access knows Mark Moya and his contributions to MIDI (marginalized in the above reason for deletion) and the continuing discussions about the New Baroque. Mr. Moya has not only been affected by the online phenomena begun years ago, but has been instrumental in furthering the discussions. Thousands of young people have studied composition because of him. I know this because I hear from these young people frequently myself. I would like to see this article preserved and expanded. --Mike Starke
  • Which would mean you would have to get consensus for changing said guidelines, not by violating them. Stirling Newberry 05:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Michael Starke. --Lambiam^Talk 21:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:V and WP:BIO. As written, the article does not even assert any notability that would be sufficient, much less provide any references ("old world" or otherwise) to support his importance in the field. If someone can provide, please do so and I will be the first to change my opinion. --Satori Son 18:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.