Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark McConnellogue

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The result of the debate was delete. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 10:22, Dec. 25, 2005

[edit] Mark McConnellogue

Non-notable schoolteacher - plus general unverifiability and original research. In what reputable published source can we find verification that "Mark’s students describe him as ‘sound’ – a term of approval used sparingly among the pupils of this large, urban school. The students respect his calm yet firm management while colleagues view him as an excellent role model for students ... As a school counsellor many pupils have found guidance, strength and wisdom from talking to him"? Tearlach 04:47, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep if he won the National award. -- JJay 04:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, he didn't. The national Guardian Award for Teacher of the Year in a Secondary School in 2004 was won by Philip Beadle, Eastlea Community School Technology College, London (see [1]). Mark McConnellogue won one of the 146 runner-up category awards, Teacher Training Agency Award for Outstanding New Teacher, Northern Ireland ([2]). Tearlach 04:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• Outstanding new teacher. That's not bad...we probably need an article on Beadle as well. -- JJay 06:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep I'd say the award for the most Outstanding New Teacher in his counrty is sufficent. N mcdermott 04:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• Weak delete - it appears that nothing verifiable is going to be able to be written on this article other than "he won 1 of 146 regional awards." The rest is more or less vanity, probably by one of his students. (ESkog)^(Talk) 04:56, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per ESKog, can't see this ever being a substantial verifiable article, nor one anyone is likely to lookup --pgk^(talk) 08:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm Sorry but i must correct you. saying "he won 1 of 146 regional awards." is a gross misrepresentation. It is the equivalent of saying X won only one out of Y gold medals at the olympics. There are only two awards for secondary school teaching in Northern Ireland. (1) "The Guardian Award for Teacher of the Year in a Secondary School " and (2) "The Teacher Training Agency Award for Outstanding New Teacher ". McConnellogue won the later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.117.143.42 (talk • contribs) 07:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Two secondary school categories out of 10 Teaching Awards and 14 more for special commendees, within NI, out of the 146 nationally. Tearlach 12:27, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• copyvio from [3] --Rob 08:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as a copyvio, keep if rewritten. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 08:45, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as nn (per ESkog), copyvio. Eusebeus 09:00, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, abuse of WP:POINT. Demiurge 10:22, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Is it? How? Anyway, delete, non-notable person. Awards for ordinary occupations like teaching are not automatically notable. Winning an award for being a good teacher in Northern Ireland is certainly not comparable with coming first in an international athletics competition. --Last Malthusian 11:19, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment - see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Johnfullerton and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John_Fullerton. Demiurge 11:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment - Ah, cheers. Don't see why creating lots of equally non-notable articles is WP:POINT though - I would've thought that WP:POINT would be nominating David Beckham or some other notable footballer. --Last Malthusian 12:10, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep Possible material in breach of copywright has been removed and he has won a national award. Notable.--Johnfullerton 15:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete: High school teacher, no matter how many kudos. Let's say he won the sole award for secondary teaching for all of the United Kingdom. Ok. That would make him last year's winner and would put him in a set of yearly winners. Within the ranks of Who's Who in Education, it would get him an entry. However, for an encyclopedia, we need a life that is discussed, and not an accomplishment that is a single event. What can one say about this person that makes him remarkable among persons? He does his job well, and we all appreciate that, but that does not make him a force above and beyond his students and the professional context. (Salesman of the year for America wouldn't be appropriate encyclopedic content, either.) Geogre 11:40, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. ouch. 82.26.164.168 15:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.