Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mariane Pearl

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep.--Wizardman 16:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mariane Pearl

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Disputed prod. The wife of a man who died in a notable incident. I don't see her personal notability myself and recommend deletion. kingboyk 17:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment I deleted this from the article, but thought it might have a place here. This isn't my argument. I'm just copying it over.Chunky Rice 18:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
"Mariane Pearl is indeed the widow of a famous person. She is also a journalist in her own right. However, how she had endured, survived, and suceeded following theJsjoholm 23:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC) kidnapping and brutal decaptitation of her husband, ten days before the birth of their only child, does merit her bio being included in Wikipedia.
I do not know personally Mariane Pearl. But, from research I have conducted concerning her life, I can attest that Ms. Pearl is a woman and a journalist, of profound moral and spiritual courage. Her story doesn't only deserve to be told and shared in this forum, it needs to be told.
To delete it would be to delete a valuable part of our contemporary history. "To forget history dooms us to repeat it." We cannot forget this part of history. Gd forbid it should be repeated.
Shlomit Mary Lucich" 63.214.55.226 (talk · contribs) 17:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge - touching. However, my grandmother died after a two year struggle with cancer. She had the profund courage to not let it affect her relationship with her grandchildren, nor bring down the family's spirits when she was around. She had outlived two husbands and a child, and had the "spiritual" courage (if that's really what you want to call it) to never become a human being so deeply entrenched in her own pathos that she failed to resonate with those around her. However moving, profound, and "inspirational" (ugh) her story may be, it is not worthy of a Wikipedia article. There is really nothing, outside of the context of her husband's death, that I could say about Mariane Pearl that would be WP:N - and so, since she cannot be divorced (no pun intended) from her husband's claim to fame, it makes little sense to divorce mention of her from the article about her husband. Once stripping away the padding, the article is basically, "Ms. Pearl was born on <date> in <location>. Her parents are <location>. She now lives in <location>, doing <occupation> for a living. Her husband was beheaded by terrorists. She wrote <book> about <aforementioned incident>, which is currently being made into a movie which stars <actress>." - nothing which can't be a subsection of the Daniel Pearl article. At the risk of sounding completely caustic: If one really needs to know her spiritually, morally profound and courageous story, he or she can read the Daniel Pearl article whilst imagining that he or she is Pearl's wife. --Action Jackson IV 19:07, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep notable enough as author of A Mighty Heart (geez, what a title), a notable book and (upcoming) movie. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep- author of notable book being adapted for film. -- Marielle 16:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep, notable. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I think the only way we can delete this is if we a) also delete other articles of similar nature. Why not delete JFKs wifes entry while we're at it? We would never have known about her if it had not been for her husband. B) we don't accredit her for her seperate career which is proficient enough to warrant her an entry as far as I am concerned(not a fan of her work though). c) we forget that she wrote a best selling book about her problems and her situation, a book that is now being made in to a hollywood movie featuring some heavy names in it.
The very notion of deleting this article is in my hmo ridicules. Jsjoholm 23:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep. Self-evidently notable. -- TedFrank 00:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep this biography of a notable individual. — Athænara ✉ 00:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, 385 articles on Google News Archive since 2003, showing that while she may have come to attention because of the death of her husband, she has remained quite notable since then. Her book is going to be a motion picture; she's gonna be played by Angelina Jolie! Don't make snap category judgements. -- Dhartung | Talk 10:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment, we don't have an article on Susan Hull, widow of Matty Hull (even though she's been in the news a fair deal). I'd say the content in the article might very well fit in an aftermath section in the Daniel Pearl article. Scoo 16:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep She's got a major feature film about her life coming out. Once the massive publicity wave is shoved down our throats for this Oscar-bait movie and Jolie and Mrs. Pearl are everywhere we look, the article will have much more info on it. Her story is notable enough now but apparently, no one here (myself included) has read the book so no one has yet to add more detailed info on her. But this article is inevitable. A few months from now, we will all know this story. MrBlondNYC 07:35, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.