Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maria Dracula (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 10:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maria Dracula

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Non-notable self-published book. This article was previously nominated here, but was kept as keep (incorrectly, in my view). The problems mentioned before remain - despite diligent promotion from the author around the Internet (lots of the Google hits are her promoting it on blogs), the Google for "Maria Dracula" "Denise Roman" returns a piddling 286 hits. The only recognition for the book is from publications that watch the vanity presses exclusively; nothing mainstream. Lastly, the content for the article is copied 100% from the book's website; Wikipedia is doing nothing but acting as a mirror for it.

Previous arguments for keep noted in the last debate include the large number of hits when searching without the author, which is completely unreliable considering how common "Maria" and "Dracula" are individually. Any serious review would have mentioned the author as well. The other item of note was making this list of "Books of the Year" from ForeWord, a magazine that covers independently published books. Considering that there were 613 "finalists" for Book of the Year in 2005 (and 197 "winners"!), this sounds like a faux award where they don't even bother to read the finalists. SnowFire 22:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

delete no referencesGman124 23:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete for lack of verifiable notability. The title is not listed in the Library Of Congress (although the author is). Eddie.willers 01:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, per issues with notability. Further adding to the problems with using google as a landmark is the fact that Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Castlevania: Rondo of Blood both feature characters named Maria and Dracula, which further muddies the waters. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ Yell ○ 13:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I went through the article and removed the copyright violations. Without those in the article, there doesn't appear to be much of an article at all. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ Yell ○ 13:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, amusingly enough, it's probably not a copyvio you removed; the original article was almost certainly made by the same author of the website and the book, and it's thus legit, since it was her rights to sign away. The article was previously tagged with copyvio a loooooong time ago, but it was removed with the edit summary of "Restoring following reciept of permission by author." Of course, that just introduces vanity/conflict of interest problems instead. SnowFire 22:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.