Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaret Lindsay (1726 - 1782)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Davewild (talk) 13:05, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Margaret Lindsay (1726 - 1782)

Margaret Lindsay (1726 - 1782) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

No notability other than marriage to Allan Ramsay. No need to redirect as the title is so unusual, and no need to merge, because the same info is already in her husband's article. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related page because it redirects to this one:

Margaret Lindsay (18th century) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Comment Notability as a member of the Murray dynasty, notably in relation to her father (once an article can be worked up on him).... - yes, notability as relating to other people is never the surest of grounds, but she is significant as more than Ramsay's wife. Neddyseagoon - talk 22:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment. Then it needs to be added to the article, because it's not there now. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Comment. Some of that now added, more still to find. Neddyseagoon - talk 12:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - non-notable member of notable clan; merge any useful data into her husband's article. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Still working on establishing her notability besides her husband - please grant a stay of execution. Neddyseagoon - talk 01:52, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep for now - work in progress. Came to this AfD to close it, but I cannot agree with current consensus (such as it is) so will leave the closure to another admin. Neddy is a respected editor with a good track record and I think we can rely on him to improve the article as he says. For me, her notability is essentially established by her portrait being in the National Gallery of Scotland. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 10:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JERRY talk contribs 02:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Could use a little more sourcing for the tidbits of information collected, but taking in good faith that they can be, together they seem to make her notable, if a minor notability. Keep. —Quasirandom (talk) 04:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak keep peripheral to enough events/situations to garner minor notability. JJL (talk) 04:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - Relations are not necessarily in and of themselves notable, but I'd like to see more info on the article. ----Ðysepsion † Speak your mind 04:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - she doesn't seem very notable, but I've looked around and found a few references to her (and to her portrait by Allan Ramsay). Probably enough to warrant a short article and to give her a degree of notability. And given that I turned up something, I wouldn't be surprised if there were more expansive works available to people who know the field. Bilby (talk) 10:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge to Allan Ramsay (artist) as she really isn`t that notable in her own right.BWH76 (talk) 14:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Quite substantial enough to stand on its own really. She's at least mentioned in passing in Rosalind Mitchell's Women in Scotland, 1660-1780, in Barker & Challis's Women's History: Britain, 1700-1850, and the various biographies of her husband must all contain material of relevance. Angus McLellan (Talk) 03:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • keep. She's the subject of a portrait in the Scottish National Gallery. It's perfectly possible that someone will look her up, and this is just the sort of thing not being paper is good for. --Paularblaster (talk) 22:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per Paularblaster, the removal of this article would be detrimental to our project. RFerreira (talk) 19:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.