Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marchesi di San Vincenzo Ferreri

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all.  Sandstein  20:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marchesi di San Vincenzo Ferreri

Marchesi di San Vincenzo Ferreri (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Another self-publication by Tancarville. References are either from the creator's own website or are unobtainable and therefore unverifiable. Very little biographical information about the subject. Much of the article is in various foreign languages. See other current afds such as this and this and the debate here. andy (talk) 22:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following very similar pages by the same editor:

Count of Meimun (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Barons of Grua (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

andy (talk) 22:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete all: As has been cropping up in the other related AfDs over the last few days, the only source we can actually see for any of these articles and any of these claims is the creator's own website. The creator claims (unpublished) documents in government archives in Europe and his own "unpublished research notes" for sources, as well as presenting much of the articles (much of which is cut and pasted from his other articles) in Italian and French. Fails WP:V, WP:N, WP:OR and WP:SYN.  RGTraynor  01:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks ... that's a better formatted list than the one with which I've been working.  RGTraynor  20:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


STRONG KEEP "Marchesi di San Giorgio" For reference see Carlantonio Barbaro (1720-1794) in Barbaro family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaro_family (note 69). Hopefully some kind soul will volunteer to translate the Italian, otherwise it's well written and the subject's notable enough.

COMMENT, somebody might want to check a list of Maltese nobility at http://www.lapasserelle.com/lm/pagespeciales/anglicistes/malta/LCVnewRWsitesept06/lcvversion2site/page1/assets/3summer2000oneblock.pdf. Give user=Tancarville a break . Frisianham (talk) 12:53, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Frisianham — Frisianham (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  • Comment If you check the talk page for the Barbaro family you will see there's been a lot of hoaxing and by sockpuppets that claim to be experts but post sources that cannot be confirmed, some of them the exact same sources that are being used bt Tancarville in these articles. Edward321 (talk) 14:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete In addition to the concerns raised by the Nominator, Frisianham's post raises the concern that these articles are part of the Barbaro hoax [1] [2] [3], which was very prone to socks. [4] Edward321 (talk) 14:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.