Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manatees in popular culture

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete due to concerns about notability, reliable sources, and what Wikipedia is not. — TKD::Talk 14:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manatees in popular culture

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Delete - Wikipedia is not a collection of every time someone spots a manatee. "Oooh, a manatee!" is not the basis for an encyclopedia article. Oppose merging any of this nonsense to any other article concerning manatees. Otto4711 01:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy Delete - If this can't be intrgrated this into Manatee, then it is simply trivia a directory and should be deleted as per Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia Cleanup and per WP:NOT#DIR. Sawblade05 02:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:NOT#DIR. Oysterguitarist 03:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - list of loosely associated items Corpx 05:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, one of the worst of its kind so far. Punkmorten 08:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Move to talk. No, most of this is indeed rubbish. But the manatee is an iconic critter, associated with mermaids in folklore and one of the environmental movement's poster critters. A better section in the article in chief could be written, and this should be moved to subpage of the talk page for the reference of future editors and to preserve its history. - Smerdis of Tlön 16:10, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• delete as WP:NOT, along with List of manatees in underground culture, List of manatees in unpopular culture and List of non-manatees in popular culture. Also, List of manatees not in popular culture, List of manatees neither in popular culture nor not in popular culture, List of non-manatees not in popular culture, List of non-manatees not in non-popular culture, List of manatees in GLBT literature, List of manatees not in GLBT literature, List of non-manatees not in non-GLBT literature, List of manatees not mentioned in the Bhagavad Gita, List of highly intelligent manatee guitarists, List of non-manatees shot by a sitting Vice President of the United States, and so on. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 16:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

• You forgot Manatees in GLBT Myspace bands. Oh, and Delete per WP:BULLSHIT.  RGTraynor  18:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Is such unpleasantness really necessary? -- Visviva 04:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep and rename back to List of cultural references to manatees (the decision to rename was an unfortunate one, as it changed the apparent scope of the article). Topic of cultural references to manatees is notable and very distinct from the subject matter of the biology article on manatees, but the article needs improvement. --orlady 17:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, culturecruft. Will it never end? Realkyhick 17:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per orlady. --xDanielx^Talk 23:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per my arguments in previous AFds - listcruft, unsourced, etc, etc.--JForget 00:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom; mostly references in South Park, Simpsons, Family Guy. But they were actually saying, "Ooh, amenity!" Mandsford 00:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - article is meatier than I'd have thought and enlightening. Needs to be cleaned up and renamed Cultural depictions of manatees as per some others...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and rename per orlady. -- Visviva 04:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep a good choice of name: culture depictions of manatees. This is only a start at a fully adequate article, but we dont throw out articles because they can be improved, which is what the arguments above amount to. Nor do we invent imaginary articles with really absurd titles to justify the ones that we simply think absurd, because weneverheardofit. Nor do we delete articles because of the possibility of making a pun on the name. I think that disposes ofall the pretended arguments for deletion. DGG (talk) 07:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

• Comment: I agree with you. Unfortunately, you failed to address the real arguments for deletion. This remains yet another portmanteau list boiling down to "Oo, a manatee!" Renaming it does not by that fact alone suddenly make this any less a directory of trivia, and that is all it will ever be. It isn't as if manatees have any widely recognized grasp on pop culture.  RGTraynor  12:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom--Greatest hits 08:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and the giggle-worthy comment by AllGloryToTheHypnotoad. This list not only violationes WP:NOT#INFO, but it also fails to establish notability, as can be seen by the lack of reliable, secondary sources. Changing the article's name will not change the fact that it's trivial, unencyclopedic, and listcruft. María (críticame) 15:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Carlossuarez46 20:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Strong delete. Wikipedia is not Uncyclopedia, nor is it a joke site, nor is it an indiscriminate collection of information. As a distant second choice, merge and redirect to Manatee. Stifle (talk) 21:16, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per orlady. Mathmo ^Talk 21:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.