Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malmö Devilants

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. Delete. Although there is agreement that the topic is importance/significance to get past CSD A7, the delete reasoning of lack of reliable sources has not been rebutted and rough consensus is that the topic does not meet the general notability guidelines. -- Jreferee t/c 13:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

On reflection at the DRV, the delete discussion regarding this and this reference was "No 3-rd party sources" which does not appear to be true. Given that this statement was in the nomination, it may have improperly influenced the remainder of the discussion. The other delete comments regarding these two sources focused on the importance/significance flowing from the two qx.se articles, which did not address whether they provided sufficient reliable source material to write the article in combination with other reliable source information. The keep reasoning was poor as well, largely focusing on personal judgments of importance/significance. On reflection, my delete close should have been no consensus and I have changed it as such. -- Jreferee t/c 15:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malmö Devilants

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Non-notable. No 3-rd party sources, etc. 18 Google hits SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:06, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Non notable rugby club. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 16:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep They probably wouldn't qualify as a rugby club alone, but I think the "first gay rugby club in Scandinavia" is actually a significant claim. I found an article on the Washington Renegades in the notability backlog a couple of weeks ago, and initially thought it was a deletion candidate until I found a number of articles (in the Washington Post, and the UK Observer) on the rapid growth of gay rugby clubs. It seems to be a notable international phenomenon, and this team appears to be the first notable Scandinavian appearance of that phenomenon, as attested to by the two third-party articles in Sweden's QX (magazine). Thomjakobsen 17:57, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletions. —Thomjakobsen 18:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I see this as harmless, and it's probably notable to the Scandinavians. Wandering Star 21:26, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Please see WP:HARMLESS. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - per Thomjakobsen. I also feel there is enough material from online searches to expand the article at least a bit. NO reason to delete a perfectly acceptable article when improving it is also an option (and especially when I see so much other crap on this site that's far worse than this). Jeffpw 17:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - Hate to say it but as a member of the International Gay Rugby Association and Board which has 37 member teams, 9 of which, including this one, have an article on WP, and being the first gay rugby team in Sweden and Scandanavia makes it Notable to me. For a 3rd party source, see the International Gay Rugby Association and Board's official web site, which lists them at http://www.igrab.net/members -- ALLSTAR ECHO 06:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect The team doesn't seem to meet the Notability guidelines for non-commercial organizations, which say:

However, if we can find a source for the claim that it's the first gay rugby club in Scandinavia (that seems to be unsourced) I would say that fact is certainly notable enough for inclusion in the IGRAB article.

And...I hate to get all witch-hunt-y (again), but this team seems to me to be quite a bit more notable than any of the other IGRAB member teams that also have their own articles. Perhaps these articles should be made sections in IGRAB, and their articles redirects? Dybryd 01:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Dybryd 01:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Notable an references supplied. Also this is not a chapter of an international organization but rather a local club that has joined an international league. I think there was a LGBT film loosely based on this club or utilizing them as well. Benjiboi 02:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable enough. • Lawrence Cohen 06:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

• Merge and turn into redirect The few bits of information on this article could very well go in the IGRAB article. Does not deserve an article of its own, since there is very little evidence of notability. --Nehwyn 17:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.