Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malay name

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Malaysian name (assuming all keep arguments are cool with the article in either location. Stefan's seems to be - it cites articles linked to, and related to, Malaysian name). Non admin closure. Giggy ^Talk 07:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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This is just a list, not suited with Wikipedia article's policy Zack2007 07:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - I am sure that other readers are wondering this, what is this list about? - Caribbean~H.Q. 09:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Redirect to Malaysian name I'm assumingthis article is a list of names of the Malay language, along with their pronunciation and definition. Yet it's a dictionary-type article, or rather, supplementary information. There is no actual information in the article, just a list of names and their definitions/translations. The names themselves don't even seem notable, most of the names that are not red-links link to similarly named yet unrelated pages. Calgary 09:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Its just generic list of Malay names (as in people's names). I strongly believe that this article be deleted as soon as possible. --Zack2007 09:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Much as I enjoy the baby-name articles, there's not a provision that I know of for keeping that in Wikipedia. Even books listing meanings of names are generally suspect and not verified by cites. Baby name books are generally not written for the reference shelf). Thus, one can probably find something saying that "Mandsford" is from Anglo-Saxon for "loudmouth". It's interesting that Delami and Melita are the Malay equivalent of "Ruby" and "Jasmine", but I can't bring myself to vote keep. As with the case of "funny laws", etymology of first names is generally approached in the spirit of fun rather than scholarship. Mandsford 14:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, and redirect or rework -- Since we have so many other pages for simmilar content this should not be deleted just because it has wrong content now (see Akan name, Arabic name, Bulgarian name, Chinese name, Dutch name, Fijian name, French names, German name, Hawaiian name, Hebrew name, Hungarian name, Icelandic name, Indian name, Indonesian names, Irish name, Japanese name, Javanese name, Korean name, Malaysian name, Jewish names, Philippine names, Polish name, Portuguese names and Vietnamese name ). That list is a mix between pages for countries/regions and cultures, the page for AfD now is about names for a culture, the content that should be on that page is now on Malaysian name (for the country) which have a sub section for malay names, I suggest either a redirect or to remove all current content and copy from the Malaysian name page and let this page live from there, redirect is OK, but I really think we should have pages about names from different cultures, not regions but that means removing the info from Malaysian name about indian and chinese names, not sure if we have any standard about that? --Stefan ^talk 14:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, weakly, per Stefan. As he notes, this is part of a series. Some of them are much better than the others. The list of frequently given names would be acceptable if pared down to the more common examples, and had a paragraph of explanation given. Weak keep because I note the existence of Indonesian names and Malaysian name cited above, which would seem to cover the entire Malay speaking world except Singapore. Suggest that an edited version of this might profitably be merged with one or the other of those, but that's a judgment I'd leave to experts, i.e. to somebody other than myself. - Smerdis of Tlön 20:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Delete This is just a list of names. If anyone wants to expand later, they can recreate it, but as of now it is just a list of names and hence, a list of loosely associated topics Corpx 03:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to Malaysian Name per Calgary. A simple list of names isn't an encyclopedia article, but the article on naming customs in Malaysia is a very good example of what people might be after if they searched for "Malay name". The series that Stefan cites is a collection of solid articles, in the main, but they're all more than just lists of names, as they actually look at cultural points, the way that the names are converted from culture to culture and so forth. I'm certain that people have Transwiki'd lists of names from different languages before, but I can't seem to find any conclusive proof that they have. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Perhaps it can be converted into a proper list then move to List of common Malay names. e.g: List of Irish surnames starting with A and List of common Chinese surnames.kawaputra^torque 09:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete or a Total Rewrite, as the current article is not appropriate as in wikipedia's policy, WP:NOT, Wikipedia is not a dictionary neither a directory. The article Malay name should consists of description of a typical names of Malay people, reasons of using, origin, etc,. As of now, Malay name section in Malaysian name is sufficient unless someone wants to total rewrite the article.--Zack2007 10:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
• Redirect to Malaysian name. End of story. — Indon (reply) — 16:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.