Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Major League Wiffle (MLW)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Philippe 02:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Major League Wiffle (MLW)

Major League Wiffle (MLW) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Nonnotable local sports league. Claims to have been recognized by notable sources, but no citations are given, despite the article having been prodded for that reason for a day (author removed the prod tag without providing citations for the claimed reliable sources). NawlinWiki (talk) 04:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• KeepThis sport has its own stadiums, where thousands of people gather to watch very week, its obviously notable. This league has hundreds of players from divisions stretching from, New York to Texas. You could no more delete this article than you could Major League Baseball—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurowoofwoof111 (talk • contribs) 04:47, 8 May 2008
  • Can you support this with evidence? "All MLW games took place on a cul-de-sac, cleverly named “The Sac”. Each season consisted of a 20-game regular season and culminated with a best-of-seven Sac Series." There is no evidence of it being nationwide or having hundreds of players. It was a group of people playing wiffle ball on their street. 76.100.210.208 (talk) 11:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• Weak Keep there's evidence of RS coverage, including the stadiums mentioned above. Better question is whether it can be covered adequately in Wiffleball, in which case, m/r _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 04:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

This individual league has been noted by ESPN The Magazine a very notable and big name. (Ref. now provided) Notability as a singular article should not be a question.Kuro Woof 05:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurowoofwoof111 (talk • contribs)

• Keep. For the reasons stated above. --MQDuck 08:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete The coverage in the articles is hardly non-trivial. One sentence in a magazine is not the coverage we require for notability. Seriously, this is a group of kids who played wiffle ball on their block and decided to call it a league. This article (which is just a local article as a result of the brief sentence in the magazine) shows that there is no huge league, nor any intention for a huge league. It's just a bunch of kids playing wiffle ball on their street. Delete this, and it's close to being a speedy delete. 76.100.210.208 (talk) 11:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment "This sport has its own stadiums, where thousands of people gather to watch very week, its obviously notable. This league has hundreds of players from divisions stretching from, New York to Texas." is just bull. The news evidence of the "stadiums" is of one local recreation park in Belleville, Illinois. And, as noted above, the ESPN mag. mention is one (obviously humorous) sentence. NawlinWiki (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
  • And that stadium in Illinois has nothing to do with this league. That's part of the "United States Perforated Plastic Baseball Association" they just use the major league wiffle ball in the stadium's name. 76.100.210.208 (talk) 11:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, claims of notability are bogus. Corvus cornix_talk 23:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
• Torn (wiffed?) The league is possibly notable, but all the sources are to the MLW website itself, instead of to the purported "coverage" from reputable sources. The "ESPN" link in the article leads to MLW's site, with a "thanks ESPN" for your coverage. Why not a link to ESPN's coverage, if it exists? If it does exist, keep. If it doesn't (along with the other major publisher's that are attested, including Minneapolis Star-Trib), delete. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
  • The "coverage" with espn is that one sentence that's shown in the league's website. Even if the source can be found off of espn for this article, it's still a one sentence trivial mention and not the significant coverage required by notability standards. 76.100.210.208 (talk) 18:51, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
    • I'm not disagreeing with you 76.100...., but the article also attests that the Star Tribune, Albany Times Union, and a TV station, have also covered this particular wiffle-league. I don't have the time to search myself, therefore, I'm torn. Seems notable (at least by the assertions given in the article), but I'm very convincible either way. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:55, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
      • In this case, you tag the article for third party sources, not go to AfD. Keep per above. --Pwnage8 (talk) 19:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
• note has anyone found anything that shows that this is a league that goes beyond just a few people playing wiffle ball in the streets of new york? I don't see how that's notable at all. 76.100.210.208 (talk) 19:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.