Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maine Coon/Gallery

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. However, I'm going to wait seven days for the relevant editors to move the pictures to Wikimedia Commons and determine which ones will go back into the main article before deleting. We'll revisit this on January 13, 2006. howcheng {chat} 07:18, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maine Coon/Gallery

Per WP:NOT: "Collections of photographs or media files with no text to go with the articles. If you are interested in presenting a picture, please provide an encyclopedic context, or consider adding it to Wikimedia Commons." I have tried several times to explain to the two editors on Talk:Maine Coon#Pictures about this policy, and the other flaws with this page; apparently my interpretation is wrong and once "consensus" has been reached on an issue, you can't touch anything. I even spent time creating a gallery on Commons, commons:Maine Coon and linked to it, as is the norm, but my efforts were swiftly reverted (and my other edits unrelated to the issue keep getting reverted in the process, so this may be a case of article ownership instead of objective reasoning). I would like some outside editors to weigh in on the issue. —jiy (talk) 04:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete Wikipedia is not MySpace, and this sort of thing is exactly what Wikimedia Commons is for. -- MisterHand 04:48, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep The pohotos are relevant and can help with research. Also see history below. Pschemp 04:50, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • User has since voted 'delete'. --Last Malthusian 14:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
The more I think about this the more I realize that the real issue you (jiy) have is that you A. - didn't do the polite thing and then B. - got pissed when the rest of us didn't do the polite thing back. Quite hypocritical and also quite unnesessary. Pschemp 05:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. The proper way to handle this - for whatever "research value" someone's home snapshots of their pets may truly have - is to create a website at myspace.com or some similar site and link to it from the Maine coon article. I think cats are adorable, maine coons especially, but this really doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. Durova 05:47, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] History

Here's the whole history. Obviously this afd tag is a ploy to force action by user jiy. I noticed you left out a few things about the issue. Nothing like making a whole new page to hash out what has already been decided by consensus because you think you know better. Your know your edits were reverted because they violated a previous consensus, were made without ANY previous discussion or warning on the talk page, and constitute a narrow and incorrect interpretation of policy. Stop crying "poor me!" and acting like you've been wronged. You blatantly ignored the history of the article and when no one agreed with you you started this. If you had used tact and correct ettiquite, maybe people would be more willing to listen. Pschemp 04:50, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

The precise numebr of pictures has already been worked out. The issue here is whetehr the gallery page should be kept or ir should be moved tot he Commons. I vote commons.Gator (talk) 16:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. The dispute should have gone to RfC in my opinion. Since it wound up here I vote delete as there are already enough pictures in the article to illustrate the point. Wikipedia is not a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files. Movementarian 09:50, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Commons is for galleries. Make a link to the commons from the article and put the pictures there. We're not losing anything by deleting this. Night Gyr 15:22, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Lot of drama here, all of which could have been avoided by everyone reading WP:NOT and WP:OWN, but in the end there's nothing to discuss. Wikipedia is not a gallery. Wikicommons is. --Last Malthusian 18:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete* Ok i see that the page doesn't belong. The lesson here for JIY is that some warning on the talk page and not going into a snit when your edits were reverted probably would have made this a non-issue. Pschemp 22:46, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as per WP:NOT. Galleries are evil. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete or create a Maine coon article and link/include these pictures within it. Wikimedia Commons is the proper place for collections of images. Wikipedia is not. Jessamyn 01:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge merge this into the Maine Coon page like it was before in order to avoid any future confusion, but the commons is a fine place for the images per a compromise to the previously hashed out consensus.Gator (talk) 15:58, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
  • All those voting on the basis of WP:NOT should be aware of the ongoing discussion on modifying this restriction at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not/galleries. However, that said, since the Maine Coon article indicates that this breed of cat comes in almost every coloration, a gallery of random cats adds little information beyond that made available by having a few well choosen images in the article. Delete. Dsmdgold 22:06, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - Doesn't pass the encyclopedic value test proposed in Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not/galleries --- Charles Stewart 00:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge + delete as per Gator (put some into main article after discussion on talk page as to which images to use, move rest into commons with a link from main article to the commons gallery, and thereafter gallery page can be deleted) -- All the best, Nickj (t) 03:49, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.