Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maharani (album)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep the edited article. --Deathphoenix 01:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maharani (album) (formerly "Nikki - Maharani")

Vanity and of all things, talks about a CD and not the singer. ARRRGGGGHHH. I'm losing my mind seeing all these < censored > nonsense. DELETE. DELETE. For the love of everything good and kind and sensible, DELETE. PLEASE DO SPEEDY DELETE! __earth ^(Talk) 03:34, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• DELETE per nom. __earth ^(Talk) 03:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep since page has been cleaned up. __earth ^(Talk) 08:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete article was created by User:Bryanlpm, probably Nikki's agent, who's only other contributions are two images of Nikki, and an .ogg file of Nikki. Ruby 03:42, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. It's a shame this is such vanity, she's a really good looking girl! Grandmasterka 03:43, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Yes she is, but the image is safe as it's also used on her biography article - which you really ought to know. I hope you're not voting to delete an album article without first bothering to read the girl's biography?! --kingboyk 13:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Arbustoo 04:11, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• "Ning Baizura is the Executive Producer cum mentor for Nikki." Um, I'm not sure I want to know what that means. Delete per nom. Dbtfz 04:17, 21 January 2006 (UTC). Weak keep. I guess it's not that bad. Dbtfz (talk - contribs) 03:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
  • "Cum" doesn't mean what you think it means. "Cum" is only a slang spelling for the meaning you're thinking of. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-21 07:56Z
    • I know that. Jeez, give me little credit.  :) Dbtfz (talk - contribs) 03:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Claims radio airplay & produced by claimed famous singer. Unfortunately I don't know the Malaysian music scene enough to be able to make any judgment on notability. The article itself is an awful press release, though, which does it no favors. Do we have any en: Wikipedians who might have an idea? —Matthew Brown (T:C) 04:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• I have an idea. I'm a Malaysian and I say a strong delete. The singer Nicolette Palikat already has a page of its own. I'm very sure any of her song can be inserted there, as it already has. And she has only produced one cd. __earth ^(Talk) 04:26, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Fine, you're a Malaysian, but you say delete because...? This is a non notable album promoted by a dodgy press release? Or because you have 'taste' and don't like lightweight pop music? (I'm being devil's advocate, but we shouldn't take someone's advice just because they come from that country, without some better evidence. I'm no fan of Malaysian pop music, which is all the more reason to err on the side of caution and keep it). --kingboyk 13:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC) formatting --kingboyk 13:58, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• I've mentioned it earlier. It's up there if you cared to read it. Apart from that, copyright problem? And cmon, there's no need to engage in personal insult. Taste is relative and I haven't said anything of my musical preference. Please don't make any assumption of somebody you don't even know. If you want to repair the page, be my guest. Unless the mess is repaired (I won't repair it), I'll say delete. __earth ^(Talk) 13:46, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• I'm not engaging in personal insult and I must apologise if you misunderstand my British sarcasm trait; a common language divides us all and it's my fault for not putting it more clearly. My use of the word taste was tongue in cheek, because we all like different things. Anyway, I hope you accept my apology if one is needed. That said, I don't think the article as edited is any more gushing than your average Mariah Carey article. --kingboyk 13:54, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• P.S. I had already removed a bit of fluff from the article and added a {{cleanup}} tag. I've also done some minor edits to some related articles. --kingboyk 13:58, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• alright then. sorry if I went over the top =) __earth ^(Talk) 16:12, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• No idea, but she was, it says, a competitor on Malaysian Idol. If she was a competitor on the UK or US Idol, we'd keep an article on her debut album. So (without voting just yet) let's be careful of systematic bias. --kingboyk 12:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• I can be careful of systemic (not systematic) bias and still vote to delete -- American Idol is viewed by several times the number of people that view the Malaysian "Idol" program. BostonBay 01:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Terence Ong 05:40, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Nicolette Palikat. —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-21 07:54Z
• Keep and cleanup. plenty of albums have their own articles -- Astrokey44|talk 10:56, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as edited. She's a Malaysian Idol contestant and if she were British or American I believe the article would be kept. --kingboyk 14:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup - Wiki has tons of albums. This is just another one. Nortonew 15:03, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletions.
• Keep - There is a clear precedent that once a musicians article is created (and qualifies for inclusion, which hers does), then their albums also qualify. Sometimes a temporary merge/redirect can be done, if there's no content yet, but there's pretty much never a deletion, and no purpose in AFD (as a merge/redirect doesn't need an AFD). --Rob 22:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• If kept this should be renamed Maharani (Nikki album), no? Right now the title is pretty bad and confusing. --W.marsh 01:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Or rather, Maharani (Nicolette Palikat album), oops. --W.marsh 01:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep album by person with an article, rename to Maharani (album) unless there are other albums called Maharani with articles. Kappa 08:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep now that it's encyclopedic! :) --Andylkl ^{[ talk! | c ]} 14:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as improved. -- Jake 00:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.