Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Macedonian Muslims

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The result of the debate was keep. freestylefrappe 00:45, July 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Macedonian Muslims

This page has essentially the same info as Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia. Delete freestylefrappe 01:13, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect. --malathion ^talk 03:38, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Freestylefrappe appears to be confused about the status of the Macedonian Muslims - they are a Slav Muslim minority comparable to the Bosniaks, not Albanians (who are an entirely different ethnic group). I've made this clear in the article. -- ChrisO 07:07, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per ChrisO. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:54, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with Republic of Macedonia. JamesBurns 09:03, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

  This would be inappropriate and inconsistent with other articles elsewhere on Wikipedia – the article on the Republic of Macedonia is about a geographical entity, not an ethnic group. For instance, the article on Croatia is quite separate from the article on the Croat people. -- ChrisO 10:48, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

  The Republic of Macedonia article has an entry on muslims, it's not just a geographical entity. JamesBurns 07:48, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

  Actually that's just a brief demographic overview of the country's population. It's not an ethnographic article about any particular ethnic group. -- ChrisO 10:04, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

• Very strong keep (The title should possibly be edited however) The basis for the deletion vote is invalid, this article has nothing to do with Macedonian Albanian Muslims. The article is about the community of Slavs whose ancestors converted to Islam. They are ethnically unrelated to Albanians and by the way not all Albanians in Macedonia or Albania are Muslims. There is no reason to delete this information about a unique community in Macedonia, what I would suggest to avoid confusion and for the sake of clarification is that the article title be altered.. instead of simply Macedonian Muslims, I would change the title to Slavic Macedonian Muslims or Macedonian Muslims (LOCAL NAME) with one of the indigenous names for the group in parentheses. --Haraald 10:39, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Distinct group of people. Capitalistroadster 11:11, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

No they are not a distinct group of people. Macedonian Muslims are unique from other Macedonians in their religion. However, the percentage of Slavic Macedonians who arent Christian is extremely small. Even if the end decision is to keep, this page should be renamed Slavic Macedonian Muslims as Macedonian Muslims would imply all citizens of either the region or the Republic. This is what lead to my initial confusion and assumption that only Albanians were being addressed on this page. freestylefrappe 19:16, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

• Merge with Macedonian Slavs, assuming the info in the article is correct. Dcarrano 12:21, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and rename, possibly to Muslims in Macedonia or islam in Macedonia --Irishpunktom\^talk 20:24, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and rename, to Slavic Macedonian Muslims or Ethnically Macedonian Muslims or the like. - Mustafaa 23:35, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep per ChrisO, not opposed to whatever renaming. Xoloz 02:47, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Revolución 05:33, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep looks as if nominator did not read article properly, article could do with improvement e.g. number of people in this community but basically sound, tend to favour keeping existing title. PatGallacher 00:53, 2005 July 24 (UTC)

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