Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MOTOS

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS. -Splashtalk 22:56, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] MOTOS

Pointless article expanding on an abbreviation. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. —Cleared as filed. 05:52, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete unless there's somewhere to redirect. --Trovatore 05:59, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
  • These are commonly-used initialisms used in sexuality research and GLBT publications. Several times people see these abbreviations on places like imdb.com, sexuality.org and thousands of other web sites and use FAQ's or search engines to discover the answer as to what the acronyms stand for, so Wickipedia could serve as source for such answers. To delete these entries, demonstrates ignorance and prejudice. [Unsigned comment by TednAZ 06:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)]
  • Merge with sexology. Qaz (talk) 06:46, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
  • These initialisms are most commonly used in sexuality research and GLBT publications and the GLBT community. In fact, I have actually overheard the phonetically-pronounced words "motts" (s/l pots) and "motos" (s/l photos) in casual speak at bisexual rallies. Several times people see these initialisms appear on places like imdb.com, sexuality.org and thousands of other web sites and use FAQ's or search engines to discover the answer as to what the acronyms/designations stand for, so Wickipedia could serve as source for such answers. To delete these entries, clearly demonstrates prejudice, intolerance and ignorance. [Unsigned comment by TednAZ 06:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)]
    • No, it demonstrates our Wikipedia is not a dictionary official policy. The place to go to look up what words mean and what initialisms expand to is a dictionary, not an encyclopaedia. There is a 90,000-word dictionary over there that is ready and waiting for all of the (attested) initialisms that editors care to give it. Wikipedia articles are encyclopaedia articles, and are about the people/places/concepts/events/things that the initialisms represent. Our article entitled NASA is about the space agency, for example. Similarly, our NASDAQ article is about the stock exchange. Our articles about MOTSS and MOTOS would be about members of the same/opposite sex. But there is nothing to say beyond the title in such articles. At best, they should be redirects to an article on sexual orientation (which deals with how it is classified and by whom). Uncle G 13:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
  • I am bisexual and actively involved in the bisexual community. The arguments by Trovotore here and at the MOTSS entry sound to me as nothing more than bigotry and bisexuals experience enough of that from both the hetero and gay communities. If you delete these, then you should delete similar NBA, NFL, NASCAR, CBS, NBC and GLBT/LGBT entries. [Unsigned comment by TednAZ 06:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)]
    • That is a a reductio ad absurdum that is entirely spurious for being based upon a false premise. As above, those articles are about the people/places/concepts/events/things. For examples: CBS is about the broadcaster and NFL is about the sporting organization. Uncle G 13:40, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge as per Qaz. CambridgeBayWeather 08:42, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete --Rogerd 18:04, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge as per Qaz. 68.99.129.188
  • Strong Keep. Terms in wide use, on the Internet and elsewhere. (Google search: "motss" 138,000; "motss -soc.motss" 75,300.) I edited MOTSS to add the Usenet connection (naming of newsgroup soc.motss partially due to desire to obscure the subject of the group, to prevent management scrutiny at Usenet sites as well as closeted subscribers). Not a dicdef; terms have cultural significance. MCB 07:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep per MCB. --Idont Havaname 05:24, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep per MCB. TednAZ 08:50, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to sexual orientation. The Bearded One 15:37, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep per MCB. Reflex Reaction 19:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as per Uncle G's comment. Nabla 01:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.