Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Måns Andersson
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus to delete. Canley (talk) 09:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Måns Andersson
Non-notable ancestor of the Bush family. Notability is not inherited. --Michael WhiteT·C 20:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Easy Delete did nothing notable in life, of interest only to bush genealogists.--Hazillow (talk) 20:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. One of the first European settlers of New Sweden, emigrating to America in 1640. One of the participants in the protest against an early corrupt government in New Sweden. And (if you bother to read the article) not a Bush ancestor, - Nunh-huh 01:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Don't insinuate we haven't read the article. The only reason why this person is in anyway noteworthy is because he could be related to the Bush family. Just because he is "one of the first" European settlers of New Sweden does not make him notable. If that was the case, every single "one of the first" settlers of anywhere should have their own article. Delete. Hazillow (talk) 02:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. If you nominate an article for deletion because you don't like the Bush family on the basis that he's a descendant, and the article indicates that Bush is not a descendant, you may have read the article, but you've failed to comprehend it. Yes, early settlers are at least as notable as, say, an episode of The Family Guy or, say, this sculptor, this album, this band, this meme, this skater, this singer, and this entity. Or any of many of the articles you'll encounter by hitting "random article". We're not here to suppress information, but to impart it. That means some people will think some specific bit isn't important to them. The answer for them is to move on, not to delete what others, at least, will find useful. - Nunh-huh 06:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Whether or not I like the Bush family or whether he is in fact an ancestor has nothing to do with it. Merely signing a petition is unnotable - there are thousands of unimportant Colonials who signed petitions. And, he is not a particularly early settler except in the context of New Sweden, but we can't go having articles for every somewhat early settler of a colony who was otherwise non-notable. --Michael WhiteT·C 13:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. If you nominate an article for deletion because you don't like the Bush family on the basis that he's a descendant, and the article indicates that Bush is not a descendant, you may have read the article, but you've failed to comprehend it. Yes, early settlers are at least as notable as, say, an episode of The Family Guy or, say, this sculptor, this album, this band, this meme, this skater, this singer, and this entity. Or any of many of the articles you'll encounter by hitting "random article". We're not here to suppress information, but to impart it. That means some people will think some specific bit isn't important to them. The answer for them is to move on, not to delete what others, at least, will find useful. - Nunh-huh 06:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: Don't insinuate we haven't read the article. The only reason why this person is in anyway noteworthy is because he could be related to the Bush family. Just because he is "one of the first" European settlers of New Sweden does not make him notable. If that was the case, every single "one of the first" settlers of anywhere should have their own article. Delete. Hazillow (talk) 02:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Exactly 22 signed this petition, which led to the Long Finn Rebellion. - Nunh-huh 20:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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- There you go again, not assuming good faith. This man was not notable just because he was an early settler. The only reason why he even has his own article is because he is somehow linked (or was perceived to be at one time) to the Bush family. I don't know about Michael A. White's politics and personally I do not care whether he likes the Bush family or not. It is irrelevant. Mans Andersson is not notable. If you have issue with those articles you linked, please nominate them for deletion. Hazillow (talk) 18:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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- On the contrary, I have no desire to make Wikipedia a less useful resource. We need more information, not less. - Nunh-huh 20:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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- 'Keep notable colonial early settler and official. DGG (talk) 07:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Notability not established per WP:BIO. --Veritas (talk) 13:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Nomination is factually worng in points. being a settler that early is notable of itself, plus he became an offical in the colony. Edward321 (talk) 15:16, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment "Inspector of tobacco" [1]? --Michael WhiteT·C 15:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- So are you saying we should have an article for everyone on this list? --Michael WhiteT·C 15:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
