Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lynx (protocol)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was No consensus. CitiCat ♫ 18:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Lynx (protocol)
Appears to fail WP:N. There seems to be only one implementation of this protocol, and no sources independent of this one implementation have been given. An expert review request to WikiProject Computer networking also did not turn up more sources. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 18:23, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Apparently a YMODEM variant of some kind used for BBS file downloads. At least, intended for same, but aside from a couple of shareware listings I can't find anything about it. Fails WP:SOFTWARE. --Dhartung | Talk 18:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment I have vague recollections of Lynx and Commodore, but that may be the years catching up on me. Is there a WP article on BBS file transfer protocols? If so, I'd recommend this be merged. I think this is of historical interest; given the time frame, it shows the volatile evolution of transmission protocols. Much of the collection is at [1]. Yngvarr (t) (c) 19:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, see List of file transfer protocols. It is more of a list than a comprehensive article, unfortunately. Burntsauce 23:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete I can't find any reference that qualifies. I ran multiline BBSs in the early to mid 90s and was a BBSer since 1990, but never heard of this protocol. X,Y,Zmodem and many other varients (mainly reverse engineered or pirated Zmodem protocols for obvious reasons) "Links" was a terminal program (not Unix Lynx) and there were several different protocols that we SysOps had to support, but this is a new one. Googling "lynx bbs protocol" shows this article first and garbage afterwards. HOWEVER, the supplied links seem legit, and frankly, everyone and their uncle was coming up with protocols and programs for BBS's back then. It appears the protocol was developed and does exist, and you can still download and implement your own version of it. As to "notability", I fear the nom is correct. Unless someone can show me something more, I gotta say delete as just another protocol that no one used. Pharmboy 21:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. If in fact you ran a BBS, I find it hard to believe you did not support this protocol. Burntsauce 23:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment. WP:AGF applies, especially since you could have looked at my user page and learned a bit. Google "Crash and Burn bbs Greensboro, NC" if you have any questions, and compare to my bio on my user page here. Again, this protocol exists, it was never popular (in the US anyway) and I researched it again to confirm this. Opinion stands as is. Pharmboy 00:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. Guess what else applies: WP:AAGF. You just violated the first rule. Burntsauce 17:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. WP:AGF applies, especially since you could have looked at my user page and learned a bit. Google "Crash and Burn bbs Greensboro, NC" if you have any questions, and compare to my bio on my user page here. Again, this protocol exists, it was never popular (in the US anyway) and I researched it again to confirm this. Opinion stands as is. Pharmboy 00:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
You started a comment with "If in fact you ran a BBS", which is pretty obvious. Look, vote how you want, express your experience how you want. Insulting or questioning my integrity or questioning the honesty in my statement is not conducive to a proper debate, and this is exactly what you did. Just because my experiences are different than yours doesn't make it proper to make a comment questioning my honesty in a debate. period. Pharmboy 20:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
- Please take a chill pill. My point is that virtually all bulletin board software supported this protocol, and if you did in fact run a BBS then you probably supported it too. Maybe you just don't remember, but that doesn't make the protocol any more or less notable. Burntsauce 17:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. I (an Apple II user) have heard of this, but it wasn't popular in my area (area code 309). I think Lynx was one of those things that caught on in pockets geographically. Where I was, ZMODEM was the standard "high performace", with BiModem on BBSes where the same people uploaded and downloaded a lot. (I'll bet a lot of people say they haven't heard of BiModem either.) There was also Punter for the Commodore 64/128 folks, whose terminal programs usually had that instead of ZMODEM. Strangely, I think Commodore folks used to use Lynx sometimes where I was also, but I don't think Apple or MS-DOS folks ever did; I could be wrong about Commodore users using it. --Closeapple 22:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
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