Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lydia White

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep and improve Eluchil404 00:08, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lydia White

Reposted? No claims for notability; no list of published papers; no books; zip. Just a personal website; school website; and a teaching award Rklawton 04:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

This is really sad. Administrators should just write "Lydia White" on google's search page to understand how important she is. Plus, I have no connection with her; check my IP, you will see that I am from a totally different country even.

I strongly criticize the admins. And I strongly believe that whoever deleted the page must be someone who is envious of this famous researcher. You deleted the Einstein of an area!!!!!!!!!!!

Why hasn't the author or editors made any of these claims and backed them up with sources? Rklawton 04:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete: I'm sorry but the one award received seems pretty insignificant. I don't see any evidence of meeting WP:BIO and I don't see any significant, independent, and reliable sources. --Hetar 04:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I'm going to eat crow on this. The original author did a terrible job asserting/illustrating notability, and I did a terrible job Googling the subject. She's actually a leader in her field, rates an article, and certainly rates better editors. I've added two of her books to the article as evidence. Rklawton 04:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Is there such a thing as Speedy Keep? Artw 05:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Also note that she is cited but not linked on the Second language acquisition page. Artw 16:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep Lydia White, Professor (James McGill Professor). Cambridge University Press textbook author. Way notable. ~ trialsanderrors 05:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep - the subject is notable, the entry is weak and needs much work (it's basically a stub). Em-jay-es 06:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Rklawton, but yes, the article needs a great deal of work. --Coredesat 07:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• delete the arguments above for keeping sounded good, but didn't hold water when I checked them out for myself. Just becuase the university she works for writes an article about her, doesn't make her notable. And if we had articles for all professors that wirte text books (many of mine did write at least a few, which is a great money making stunt (my book is required for my class) doesn't mean she is notable. Trm3 11:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Which "university she works for" are you talking about? The link in the references section in the article is to the University of Illinois; she works for McGill University in Canada. — Haeleth Talk 11:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Head of a department at a major university? Holder of a named professorship? Notable, period. — Haeleth Talk 11:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

• Send to cleanup: Random J. Professor is involved here. Of course holding a chair is wonderful and sets a person ahead of other professors, but only if the article is about the work or about a truly interesting and notable life. If the article is a boast or so poorly written that we think it's A7, exactly what good have we done our readers? "Mohammed Ali was a boxer" wouldn't be worth keeping, and neither would "Mohammed Ali is the head of the Ali Foundation." The article needs fixin'. Geogre 11:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Haeleth. Seems to be a significant figure, has written several books, holds an important chair. Judging from the tenor of some opinions, the page I read may have been heavily edited from what was proposed for deletion, in which case this may be moot. Smerdis of Tlön 14:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep per rklawton B.ellis 15:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep & Cleanup per above. --Xyrael ^T 16:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. Definitely meets "professor test", but article itself isn't very good. LotLE×talk 06:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup as per above. --Strothra 15:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Her resume is posted elsewhere. Tychocat 20:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep anyone who has a festschrift written in their honor is clearly notable in their field. Mak (talk) 03:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep definitely!!! She is the creator of all the theory in that area. I am a linguistics student myself, and believe me, in her area (SLA), she is the most notable together with Stephen Krashen. And modern ideas of SLA are represented by L. White, not by S. Krashen. Happylinguist (talk) 11:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep also because the article is very original and moderately nice right now. But yeah, the original author did a horrible job, and actually that's why we have been discussing here. Otherwise, she is definitely very very notable. Happylinguist (talk) 12:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't say she's "definitely very very notable," but just notable. She meets the author test anyway. --Strothra 13:21, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.