Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lotto (Norsk Tipping AS)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep per absence of delete preferences (non-admin closure). Possibility of merging content elsewhere left open to editors of the article. Skomorokh 00:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Lotto (Norsk Tipping AS)
Attempts at both a redirect and a prod were apparently removed by the author of the page. Wikipedia is not a "how-to" manual per WP:NOT#HOWTO. J Readings (talk) 07:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Delete as it is probably a copyvio. The biggest giveaway is "as provided in Rule 11 below.", when the text has no "rule 11". My guess is that this is taken straight out of the policies. However, the subject here is notable. Lotto is the oldest and largest of the Norwegian lotteries, and the results and draws are made on national TV in prime time. In fact, even some of the advertisements for Lotto are notable in that they won the annual Gullfisken (Gold Fish) award for best TV commercial. Sjakkalle (Check!) 10:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment: The article Norsk Tipping already covers in the abstract state-sponsored games in Norway. While that article, too, has its fair share of problems (no reliable sources, no citations, possible original research, etc), this article -- in addition to those problems -- reads like a "how-to" guide with little additional reason to justify its inclusion into the encyclopedia. J Readings (talk) 11:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Tell you what, I have gone ahead and rewritten the whole article. As it is a rushed work, it is not in very good shape, but I have taken away most of your concerns. In fact, this game is so encyclopedic that the paper encyclopedia Store norske leksikon has an article on it. (online version) Keep. Sjakkalle (Check!) 11:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: The article Norsk Tipping already covers in the abstract state-sponsored games in Norway. While that article, too, has its fair share of problems (no reliable sources, no citations, possible original research, etc), this article -- in addition to those problems -- reads like a "how-to" guide with little additional reason to justify its inclusion into the encyclopedia. J Readings (talk) 11:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Merge to Norsk_Tipping, game is not notable on its own but the Norsk Tipping games probably have collective notability. Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC).
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 13:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Merge per Lankiveil Percy Snoodle (talk) 14:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I am utterly amazed at seeing "merge" votes when I have presented that the lottery is the subject of a separate article in a paper encyclopedia. Are we really going to start having more restrictive notability standards than paper encyclopedias? Sjakkalle (Check!) 14:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Per very interesting/relevant comment by Sjakkalle. If we believe in WP:NOTPAPER then we should be at least as inclusive as a specialized paper encyclopedia. I have to imagine a national lottery will also have plenty of reliable sources. Certainly state lotteries in the US do. Hobit (talk) 18:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. I share Sjakkalle's amazement. Don't people even bother to read previous comments before commenting themselves at AfD? Phil Bridger (talk) 07:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
