Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London slang

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The result of the debate was keep. Eugene van der Pijll 19:20, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] London slang

If this is London slang at all, it's not anything I've heard, in 20 years of living in London. Maybe this is the slang of some tiny group of clubbers; maybe it's nonsense. In any case, a proper article on slang in London would be far more detailed than this, as it would need to describe all the different kinds of slang prevalent in different London ethnic and socioeconomic groups, as well as subcultures. Delete or rewrite from scratch. -- Karada 08:03, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Direct quote from WP:WWIN: "[Wikipedia is not]: A usage guide, or slang and idiom guide. Wikipedia is not in the business of saying how words, idioms, etc., are used. We aren't teaching people how to talk like a leet cracker or a Cockney chimney-sweep." Exactly. --Dmcdevit·t 08:08, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - this stuff belongs in wiktionary, if anywhere, though they're probably not going to take it in this format -- Francs2000 | Talk 08:10, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - as I said on the discussion page: many of the words are defined quite adequately in the average dictionary; this sounds like a particular subculture's slang (see Gina Yashere on the Lenny Henry show) rather than "London" slang. Brequinda 08:29, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

*Delete although I actually suspect a copyvio. David | Talk 12:10, 22 July 2005 (UTC) see below.

• Delete I live in London and know very few of these words. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 12:23, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Dmcdevit. Dcarrano 17:00, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, this isn't anything I recognise and includes none of the slang I've heard Londoners use. Vashti 19:01, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete questionable whether London slang varies significantly from general British slang, but if there is a legitimate article on this subject then this isn't it. PatGallacher 23:41, 2005 July 22 (UTC)
• Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 04:20, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete for reasons provided above. Binadot 22:46, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

All subsequent votes are associated with the cleaned up version of the article, which has significantly altered its content. -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:34, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

• Keep I think the current version is fine. Secretlondon 08:12, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep VfD~=cleanup.  Grue  16:40, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Strongest keep possible good rewrite.  Grue  09:51, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete I live in london. Its nonsense. "Peckish", and "Snog" are slang terms nationally not only in london, and "queue" isn't a slang term whatsoever. ~~~~ 21:51, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

• NOTE: The article was entirely rewritten. Keep new version. It's now linguistics, so anyone who opposed on Wiktionary grounds should really revisit the article. It is not duplicate material, and it is not a list of slang terms anymore. Geogre 03:24, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• I have read the rewritten version, and sorry, I still vote to delete. Its starting point is still BA's guide to London slang, there is not a great deal apart from that. Some of the words are general British slang. London is a large multi-cultural city, you'll be hard pressed to find many words that are common across not London but not elsewhere. BA were producing an advertising campaign aimed at an American audience, not a serious exercise in linguistics. PatGallacher 10:43, 2005 July 25 (UTC)
• Change of vote to keep following rewrite. -- Francs2000 | Talk 14:34, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• I change my vote, to keep and improve new version. Needs a clearer distinction between general British slang and specifically London slang, but the rewrite is now a good, and improving, article. -- Karada 22:00, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Good rewriting work. David | Talk 08:36, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into British slang or United Kingdom slang.Rich Farmbrough 11:37, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into British slang or Delete, I personally don't see how any of these words mentioned on the article are slang, since when is "loo" or "lift" slang? These are just words used in the United Kingdom instead of "toilet" and "elevator". The article is mostly nonsense, needs a cleanup and also at the same time seems like a huge promotion for a British Airways campaign I've never even heard of. — Wackymacs 19:40, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
  • The point being that what is being sold/promoted abroad as London slang isn't at all. Londoners know this - the advert isn't aimed at us so we are not exposed to the misinformation. Secretlondon 12:44, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

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