Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Logan School

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus — Caknuck 03:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Logan School

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no assertion of notability, and my tags that this article reads like an advert are repeatedly removed without anything being changed. It's a pretty article, but it's unnotable poorly sourced advert Chris 03:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —Chris 03:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete no assertion of notability, + the mindless pablum ra-ra from the school's website. Eusebeus 22:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
    • There's an advertising tag on the top of the story, which is the initial way to deal with rah-rah, not deletion. Noroton 13:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, and that keeps getting removed without being dealt with, and should remain until it is, if this article survives. Chris 21:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep notability shouldn't need to be asserted any more for a high school than for a village, hamlet, town or "census designated" hole in the wall, which are all kept by current practice. All high schools are notable, as I argue here although I'm sure our closing admin overlord will ignore my reasoning, not that there's anything wrong with our administrator overlords, of course. I was under the impression it was a high school. Apparently not. No opinion (which, in the philosophies of some closing admins, could be used to craft some kind of consensus). Noroton 13:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC) (edited Noroton 13:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC))
  • Keep as notable middle school, see Ghits: [1] (1st 9 are pretty good, but the 10th is this WP article), and students received an award from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL): [2]. Article needs to cut out the junk and cruft. Bearian 15:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CitiCat ♫ 02:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Article does not state what the award is for, and upon checking the source, it's not actually for any academic achievement, it's a "Spirit Award" for good sportsmanship. The article states that it was given "for their work," implying that it was for something educational, which is false. The remaining half of the article is about some fundraising project and completely unencyclopedic. Delete as advertising and a peacock article. Hersfold (talk/work) 03:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. I normally don't vote to keep elementary and middle schools but a private school for gifted children that just raised $5 million and has its own 13.5 acre campus seems "worthy of note" to me. -- DS1953 talk 03:25, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Fund raising is great, but its still lacking coverage from reliable sources Corpx 04:43, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --PEAR (talk) 10:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Not a garden-variety elementary or middle school, but notable as a school with a unique educational approach. True, the article is not well-written and does not assert its topic's notability, but those shortcomings can be fixed with additional sources and rewriting.--orlady 17:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per orlady and DS. Mathmo Talk 00:12, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak delete. Notability is not currently established. It may be that notability could be established with some reliable sources, but they don't seem to have a particularly unique approach (experiental learning has a history of well over 100 years) and there's no reason given in the article to believe this school really stands out. --Yamla 15:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Article makes claims of notability supported independently. Additional sources should be added to expand teh article. Alansohn 18:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - per nom. It is very difficult for a middle school to be notable. Awards are not one of them unless it is a recognizable, notable achivement. This is but one of thousands around the world; education should be the focus and not the building where students attend. --Storm Rider (talk) 08:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete No assertion of notability.--Húsönd 01:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I spent some time researching this school. I found it listed (with favorable reviews) in a directory of schools for gifted children (those Wikipedians who think that all K-8 schools are alike should investigate the number of schools for the gifted -- these types of schools are rare). I found other info about the school in other sources, and I found a journal article about a research study in which Logan students were key participants. All this is now reflected in the article, along with the pre-existing information about the school's having raised $5 million in donations.--orlady 04:57, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Lacks notability. References about previous notability for the staff don't mean this school is notable. Directory lists also don't make it notable nor do mentions in an article without substantial coverage. Being a school for the gifted done not make notability nor does making lists. Vegaswikian 05:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Having your advert tags removed is not grounds for deletion. When placing these tags, you need to explain exactly what you are objecting to on the talk page, otherwise editors don't know how to address it. Dhaluza 10:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.