Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lloyd Youngblood

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Nomination withdrawn. Consensus is to keep. PeaceNT 13:40, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lloyd Youngblood

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I think it fails to meet WP:BIO Whstchy 21:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment Unfair AfD, the article was only created today. You haven't given the owner, creator of the article time to advance it. You should of put your thoughts forward to him first instead of this AfD request. Govvy 21:27, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment True, but I personally see no point in the article, and all the creator of the article is doing is adding links to support it, rather than adding information. From my view, if he wants it to be up to par, I think he should add info, not just links (note: that's my personal view). Whstchy 21:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: As the article was new, my personal priority was adding references to existing material rather than adding new material. Patiwat 23:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment While it's sometimes worthwhile to talk to a person editing an article, that person does not own the article in any way whatsoever. Please see WP:OWN for more discussion of this. FrozenPurpleCube 23:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep dependent on providing a more thorough description of the work he has done with each of the wrestlers, not just that he has done work with them. Jeff Silvers 22:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Done, as suggested. Patiwat 23:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete this is notability by association. The wrestlers are notable, without more proof, he is not. Dr Frank Jobe doesn't even have an article, and he's more notable by far for his pioneering Tommy John surgery. I'm not using this as a case of other articles not existing, but to show that even Dr. Jobe, who gets several mentions a year on ESPN, isn't all that notable. DarkAudit 22:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep his work on Benoit and Austin's necks is well known, this article is a good start, the quick AfD is not giving the creator or the project time to work on the article. Darrenhusted 23:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong Speedy Keep The nom admitted that he didn't give the author adequate time to work on the article and that he recommended it for deletion because in his own opinion the author didn't work on the article the way he thought he should. Theophilus75 23:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I am basing my actions on a recommendation of an admin. Also, going off what DarkAudit said, just because he worked on famous people, does not mean he gets his own page. Even now, it's still not in good enough condition, most of the info is based off press releases for professional wrestling, which a lot will admit to it being staged. Whstchy 00:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment While it's obviously true that professional wrestling is staged, promotions have begun to increasingly ignore kayfabe when publicly discussing real-life injuries (especially with the advent of the Internet and the resulting Internet wrestling community). Of course, this says nothing about his notability, but it does help in addressing concerns that Dr. Youngblood's role may be exaggerated (or even fabricated) on television. Jeff Silvers 00:29, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment that's another thing I wanted to say, there is a chance that his involvement could be staged or blown out of proportion. Whstchy 00:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I was under the impression that's what you were saying. Jeff Silvers 01:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep as N in terms of his patients. Many sports medicine specialists will fall in this category.DGG 03:01, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable in terms of his patients and his role in extending the careers of modern-day wrestlers. He's operated on a significant portion of both the WWE and TNA locker rooms. Without him, a lot of current-day wrestlers would either not be wrestling or would be in wheelchairs. FlamingSpear 03:15, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete As nom, forgot to put that.--Whstchy 04:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. I'm going to give this article the benefit of the doubt as it seems to still be a work in progress; the fact that his patients are notable hints at his own possible notability, and he does seem to pass WP:RS, but I'm not fully swayed on it yet. Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 04:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The article is improved since I last saw it with some citation, I am sure he must of done other stuff than help WWE wrestlers. You might want to add those things if you can find it. But for now, there defiantly is notability there to the wrestling industry and he obviously has worked hard in his own field. You might want to have a look at Phil McGraw for idea's to help improve this article. Govvy 09:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment If anyone could find a notable non-wrestler he's worked on, I'll withdraw the AFD nom.--Whstchy 16:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • That comment alone makes it very clear to me that you are prejudicial against wrestling articles. The Afd should be withdrawn because of your prejudice alone. Theophilus75 20:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • It could also be argued that almost all of the keeps are people who are involved with wrestling articles. Plus, this is my first ever AFD nomination, and just because it is against a wrestling article does not mean I'm against them all. Also, look at the previous comments, more so the one regarding the fact that parts of wrestling are staged and the surgery could be itself, which is why I wanted a notable non-wrestler he worked on so that way I would be able to see without a doubt in my mind he is qualified.--Whstchy 21:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I sincerely appologize for not assuming good faith! I better understand your concern now. Theophilus75 23:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. An article by the San Antonio Express-News has a story of his surgury on longtime KENS reporter Gary DeLaune. MadMax 19:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep I think that the fact that he provided all those career-saving neck surgeries maybe means we could say some things about him.... --SteelersFan UK06 20:53, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • NOMINATION WITHDRAWN Per MadMax. Could someone close this please? --Whstchy 21:07, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment The WWE has never stayed with keyfab when wrestlers are injured in fact, the WWE always tell the truth when it's a real serious injury, the other side of the coin in this business is that when it comes down to life and death. You will find that the WWE has never lied. So I highly doubt they will make up a doctor. Govvy 09:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.