Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of skateboarders

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Crash and burn. --Luigi30 (Taλk) 14:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of skateboarders

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I'm nominating this list because it's a magnet for nonnotable wannabes to add their names (or their friends' names etc.). More than two-thirds of the names on the list are unverified redlinks. We already have Category:Skateboarders (sorry, I don't know how to do the link), and that should suffice. YechielMan 06:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NOT#IINFO and nom. Perhaps a list of just Pro Skateboaders would be good, however adding "notable" skateboarders to the list turns it into a unmanageable mess. Mitaphane _?|! 06:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and populate Category:Skateboarders if necessary. Orderinchaos78 06:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Unsourced and redundant with Category:Skateboarders. Most of those unsourced redlinks have been there since the original version. Dave6 07:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I monitor the list very precisely and remove any non-notables. Since a list has red entries it is a good place to start a new article.--KoRnholio8 08:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep if all the redlinks are removed Cats and lists can co-exist and are synergistic. A cat can only display in alpha order, a list can be grouped say by country, dates, championships, etc. --Steve _(Slf67) ^talk 12:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete this version. Way too broad a subject for a list. Steve, above, brings up a good point, but I think that pretty much demands more specific list topics, rather than a blanket "list of skateboarders" which in theory could invite any kid with a board to add their name. (Resulting in ongoing maintenance required). Perhaps a "List of PROFESSIONAL skateboarders" or something like hat could be created. 23skidoo 13:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I feel a 'List of professional skateboarders' could prove unstable, as there'd be kids putting themselves in because they feel they are pros, and then there'd be others removing their rivals or somesuch... just a loose thought. --Ouro (blah blah) 17:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
    • It wouldn't be any less stable than other lists about popular subjects. So long as the list is monitored by interested editors, unreferenced and inappropriate entries would presumably be removed in a timely fashion. Dugwiki 23:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. There are millions of skateboard users. An open list of people who do anything commonly thought of as "cool", would attract the whole wannabeehive and all sorts of junk. Anthony Appleyard 18:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment What's with the attitude? The explanation on the list cleary states that there are only professional and amateur skateboarders. You can remove notable if you wish. The list survived vandalism long enough before anyone decided it was a candidate for deletion. Please, if anyone wishes to contribue to skateboarding coverage on Wikipedia, please skateboard at least 5 years before you do so and get educated about the subject.--KoRnholio8 20:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep provided it is restricted properly There may be millions of skateboard users, but only a handful of people will have skateboarding verifiably and notably mentioned in their article (eg professional and amateur competitive skateboarders like Tony Hawk). Provided the list is properly restricted to only articles which have referenced, notable comments about the person skateboarding, there's nothing wrong with this list. Also, note that it is quite acceptable to have both a list AND a category, since lists and categories serve slightly different purposes and reader audiences. Thus Category:Skateboarders does not negate the potential usefulness of a corresponding list. (For example, a list of skateboarders can provide auxilliary information like where the skateboarder resides, and in what context they are associated with skateboarding, such as a competitive boarder, or a person who designs skateboards, etc.) Dugwiki 23:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, listcruft. And one awash in red ink at that. Edeans 00:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and populate categories of existing articles as proposed. If this list provided any kind of context I would cast my vote differently, but alas it does not. (jarbarf) 18:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as the list provides nothing more then a cat. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 02:49, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. One could start a wikiproject on skateboarding (or X-sports) and move the list there. --Vsion 05:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment This project is in the making for some time now. Don't know when it's going to be done.--KoRnholio8 07:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.