Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of miracles

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sr13 08:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of miracles

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This article has no content since creation over a month ago. It is an empty article. Sefringle^Talk 00:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Religion-related deletions. —Sefringle^Talk 00:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, better to get knowledgeable editors to work on expanding it rather than just deleting it Guycalledryan 01:14, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

We waited over a month, and nothing was done, even leaving comments on wikiprojects. Still, nothing.--Sefringle^Talk 01:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete I have to agree with Sefringle... Rackabello 01:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Although an editor has added a few miracles, the article must be impossibly huge to comply with NPOV. Every miracle attested in every religion? Every miracle acknowledged by an organized religion? Every miracle commonly believed by major religions? Any definition becomes unwieldy. Articles already exist collecting more narrowly defined sets of miracles; see Miracles attributed to Jesus and Our Lady of Lourdes. Katherine Tredwell 02:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment now it is just origional research.--Sefringle^Talk 02:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete This article is a POV disaster waiting to happen. It could reasonably be expected to include Jewish and Moslem miracles if anyone cares, but I don't like the whole idea. It makes much more sense to separate the articles by religion, as List of miracles in Judaism, List of miracles in Christianity]], and so forth. Shalom ^Hello 02:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per Shalom. In it's current form, this can only become a mess. CitiCat 03:49, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per Katherine Tredwell DraxusD 04:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not trying to offend anyone, but all of these are only cited by fictional works, so delete based on the lack of references Corpx 06:38, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - There are literally thousands of purported miracles every year, ranging from the face of Jesus being seen on a potato chip to televangelists claiming to have performed miracles to actual incidents of phenomena for which no rational explanation can be found. There is no neutral way to distinguish which of these miracles are worthy of inclusion and which are not (i.e. which are "real" miracles and which aren't). Also (and this is an observation, not an argument for deletion), notice that only miracles from the Abrahamic religions are noted. There are plenty of miracles (or purported miracles) in Eastern religions as well (such as the Hindu milk miracle). Bottom line: this article is a POV minefield and is unmaintainable in any neutral fashion. --Hnsampat 11:39, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not that a list of miracles is a bad idea, but this is way too broad... one might as well put up a List of good deeds. Since at least two verified miracles are a prerequisite to canonization of a saint in the Roman Catholic Church, miracles are documented and taken quite seriously. Miracles specific to an individual subject, by religion, would be appropriate. In addition, this one is subject to vandalism. I think Hillary Clinton once told her husband, "It'll be a miracle if you're re-elected in '96." I agree with everyone above. Mandsford 11:59, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per Shalom. --Hillock65 15:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Hnsampat. NawlinWiki 17:55, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per all the above, with an additional observation that many miracles may well fall short of notability guidelines. I can see a potential WikiProject or other group to deal with miracles reported in detail (thus bypassing many of the televangelist miracles), however. John Carter 16:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, a category would be better, reliable sources are absent, and the topic is so wide as to have a serious potential of descending into listcruft. Stifle (talk) 16:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment There is already a Miracles category. Katherine Tredwell 02:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete The scope of the topic is concerning and could turn out badly. Captain panda 05:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.