Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cellists
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. —Quarl (talk) 2007-01-03 07:48Z
[edit] List of cellists
- Delete Creating a list of notable cellists, without creating criteria for inclusion on this list creates a never ending list like we have developing here. If we keep this article, then we should also create pages of lists for all other types of professions, which would get out of hand. I suspect that this page has become a vanity page for some of those listed on it and therefore think it does not belong in the encyclopedia. Socreins 05:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Who are: Linday Mac, Fritz Magg, Gerhard Mantel, Michael Wiseman, Bryan Charles Wilson, Sandy Walsh-Wilson? Again, I believe people are just adding their names to this list; this is the danger of an un-ending un-structured list. Socreins 13:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep It's useful for those who like the sound of the cello by having the potential to provide more information on each artist than Category:Cellists. In addition see Category:Lists of musicians by instrument as most anything said of this list applies to many of those. Still I think this needs work. List of violinists is divided by era and to some extent genre. This needs retooled if it's going to be truly useful.--T. Anthony 20:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- keep per Anthony --BenWhitey 03:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Lists periodically have to be pruned of vanity/non-notable additions, to which they are particularly vulnerable, but they are a valuable information source on Wikipedia. Unlike categories they can contain redlinks showing us what articles need to be written still (e.g. Joan Jeanrenaud leaps right out of there). Lists also can be annotated, for example with the performer's dates and nationality. Antandrus (talk) 03:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- keep per Anthony. —dima/s-ko/ 04:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- keep. Limit it to adding "cellists" with articles, if you have problems about whom to include. -- User:Docu
- Delete. An unstructured list does not belong in the encyclopedia. Developing a page which has artists of style, genre, age, etc would be valuable. A list of those that have played the cello is not. It appears that many of the keep arguments are by Cellists who are in favour of supporting of this self-promoting vanity listings. Ivyrodnyc 17:33, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Is it prudent to inhibit as subjective a field as the arts with imposed guidelines as to importance of the artists? To whom does the onus fall of making this choice?Miklosdogg 17:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- KEEP Incidentally, in response to "socreins" rhetorical statement: Fritz Magg was a noted cellist, editor, and pedagogue. Gerhard Mantel is a well-known author of cello technique. Even a cursory search of the internet reveals this. Miklosdogg 17:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- Furthermore, in reponse to "Ivyrodnyc": the idea that the posting of a cellist's name in the august annals of Wikipedia is going to elicit a second thought by any other serious, professional cellist is ridiculous. It's such a small musical sphere, everyone knows almost everyone else out there. I assure you, this is not where they turn for industry news. Miklosdogg 18:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
