Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Heroes

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. —Centrx→talk • 02:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Heroes

List of Heroes (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Redundant with List of characters in Heroes. Should not be a redirect, because a) there are many lists of other types of heroes on Wikipedia (such as List of superheroines or List of Greek mythological figures) and b) the content should not be kept in history as some sort of hidden repository of non-notable information to be accessed, updated, and hidden again. [1] [2] Finally, and least importantly, the capitalization of the title is incorrect. Kafziel Talk 15:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete: redundant. However I would suggest checking with the page creator before deleting to see if perhaps this shouldn't be userfied instead in case this was a temp or attempt to revise/improve the existing List of characters in Heroes article that escaped into article space. 23skidoo 17:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I've tried discussing it with him at length. From what I can tell, he feels there should be two articles. Oddly enough (since he has quite a few edits) he doesn't really seem to understand our notability criteria, WP:NOT, or, in fact, most of what I've been saying. Not sure what else I can do to explain the situation. Anyone else want to try? Kafziel Talk 17:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete but don't redirect. Disambig. page needed. Someone typing this could be looking for: List of characters in Heroes, List of superheroes, or could be looking for a list of real people who have been noted for their heroism. WJBscribe 20:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I agree that there should be no redirect as there are many different uses for "hero" and many different lists associated with them. The first sentence of the nom is what I meant to say; the last sentence wasn't supposed to be left in, and I have removed it. A disambiguation page might be a good idea, though. Kafziel Talk 21:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • So, "delete and then recreate (with proper capitalization) as dab page?" I'll support that. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Their is already a templete to link these articles to gether. I don't see why a list is needed that supplies just name and powers. Cnriaczoy42 22:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename to "The List (Heroes)", make it about "The List" from the show. Level 21:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, no Redirect per WJBscribe. The history *has* to be nuked. Danny Lilithborne 22:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Rename i agree with Level and that this is the list that was on mohinder's computer and it should have it's own page because it's a long list and we see more of the list in every episode so i agree to rename it. LeafGreen Ranger 11:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
    • What makes the list itself notable enough to require its own article apart from the main article about the show and the list of characters we already have? Kafziel Talk 13:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: also, what's with the over capitalization? ""list" should be lower case. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment: I didn't know i was over capitalization, also i would like it if we rename the page and get everyone's option and also we'll need this list because of the new story arc "are you on the list" since the the list is a new story arc we need this to know who is on the listLeafGreen Ranger 11:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)LeafGreen Ranger 11:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
        • No we don't; this is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. There are plenty of other websites that will have that sort of information. Kafziel Talk 14:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
          • Comment: While the list is not notable at this time when the story plays out in the coming year it is likely to become notable and there may be reason to recreate it at that time however as of now it probably falls under Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Stardust8212 15:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Note to closing admin: only non-delete votes are from the creator of the page and a brand-new user who hasn't done anything since !voting here. Kafziel Talk 14:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete: Even the show itself doesn't present the contents of the list as being important enough to show it to viewers for a long enough time for them to read it. Primogen 19:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Kaf, this actually isn't a "vote". We're all showing sound reasoning and concensus to delete. Two people—assuming good faith here—expressing different opinions with poor reasoning don't trump that, even if sockpuppetry is involved. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I know it's not a vote, but see my fourth rule. Kafziel Talk 01:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: The insinuations are kind of insulting, but oh well. If it was my suggestions that was the over capitalization, it is because I copied the name from The List (My Name Is Earl). I wanted to keep this because it was the most complete I had found. It defiantly needed improvements though, I have a copy now, so whatever. Level 16:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
      • In general, unless something (a name) is capitalized by the creator, it shouldn't be capitalized, especially if it uses common words. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 20:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.