Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Linux.org.ru

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. Deathphoenix ʕ 04:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Linux.org.ru

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Speedy deletion was overturned at deletion review and is now here for full debate. This is a procedural nomination, I have no opinion. trialsanderrors 21:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Might be a perfectly good site, but given that it is in Russian I don't know that it is relavent to an English-language encyclopedia, unless it's been mentioned in the press. Tarinth 23:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep LOR is the site where most Russian speaking IT guys get their latest news from. Many other Unix-themed web-sites all across the former Soviet Union publish RSS-feeds from LOR, or otherwise use LOR as their intelligence. MureninC 01:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete no assertion of notability is made. Article fails every criterion of WP:WEB. Also fails WP:RS and WP:V.--RWR8189 07:04, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Notability claims The article does not fail every criterion of WP:WEB. For example, let's do a google on the unique title of a recent article that I've posted to Linux.org.ru: [1]: [2]. You clearly see that google returns 305 results for a Linux.org.ru article that was posted shortly before the new year -- approximately, that's the number of sites that reprint news from Linux.org.ru. Just some example of who does the reprinting: [3]; and RSS feeds: [4]. Linux.org.ru is a hugely popular web-site, much more popular in Russia than Slashdot.org etc. MureninC 14:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

• Comment The fact that it's in Russian has nothing to do with its notability - plenty of non-English speaking things appear on Wikipedia, as long as they're referenced. If we find some sources, keep, if not, delete. Just for reference, there is a Russian version of this article at [5] - maybe someone who speaks Russian can get something useful there. (Damn, just have a look at that Russian penguin. No soft-arse fluffy toy mascots there. He plays for keeps.) Quack 688 07:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC).
• Keep, sounds like a notable website, useful for bilingual people. Snowman 14:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - No assertions of notability, looks like it fails WP:WEB, WP:V. Wickethewok 19:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Should we became directory of Linux portals in all languages? Pavel Vozenilek 23:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I thought we would be language-neutral. In any case the contribution of Russian programmers to Open source is so significant that it should be recognized.DGG 08:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment If the website itself is the source of some significant work, I'd be happy to call it notable. But are those contributions from Linux.org.ru, or are they just the contributions of Russian programmers who occasionally visit Linux.org.ru? Quack 688 11:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    • http://ru.wikibooks.org/wiki/LOR-FAQ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.186.150.184 (talk) 19:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
• Comment Is the basic keep argument WP:ILIKEIT?--RWR8189 09:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

No, indeed not. I think I'm the only voter here who reads Russian, and we already have two other votes in keeping the article. Also notice how fast the decision against speedy delete was overturned, and how many people voted to overturn it. MureninC 23:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete. Per WP:WEB and RWR8189 Anomo 10:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you referring to this misinformed, misspelled and discriminative comment from the history tab: «07:13, 5 December 2006 RWR8189 (Talk | contribs) (not only is the forum non-notable, its in Russian)»? First, the site is not simply a forum, unless you call Slashdot a forum, too. Second, a lot of independent site owners integrate RSS-feeds from Linux.org.ru onto their own sites, or otherwise reprint articles from Linux.org.ru, which shows that Linux.org.ru is notable. Third, articles in this wikipedia are not limited to describing resources that have English references. MureninC 00:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.