Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Linden Porco

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Neil (►) 13:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Linden Porco

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Not notable, I PRODded but the PROD was removed. Corvus cornix 23:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

• keep. However sad it is, actors are notable by definition, since they are in the eyes of many public. Not to say that he is dwarf actor, which adds some notability. Mukadderat 00:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Actors are not notable by definition. We have long had examples of people with well-referenced imdb lists who have been deleted because none of their roles were notable. Corvus cornix 02:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy delete wp:bio calls for "With significant roles in notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions." This guy clearly hasn't had significant roles in notable films, tv, stage, etc.Balloonman 03:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete (probably speedily, but I'm never a fan of doing this myself). Nothing's "notable by definition", and certainly not someone who seems - although I may be reading the article wrongly - to have a grand total of one role as a body double in a film. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 05:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, we in fact have a definition of notable and actors are not notable by default under our definition of Wikipedia notability. A body double I just can't see making it on that basis alone. At least Verne Troyer actually does his own acting. --Dhartung | Talk 07:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Unless we get sources.--Owl 2 12:49, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Sources would only prove that he exists, not that he's notable. I don't think anybody is disagreeing that he exists. Corvus cornix 17:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

• Keep Linden Porco is specifically mentioned by Seattle Post-Intelligencer here, and by PopMatters here for his role in Little Man (film), which somehow means he is not insignificant. There is also an article written entirely about him by The Hamilton Spectator. Fairly notable. I have added some references. PeaceNT 08:25, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

The PopMatters source only mentions him once, so it's not non-trivial. I'm not entirely convinced that the Post-Intelligencer one is either, although it's much less trivial than I'd originally suspected. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:27, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

His name is mentioned three times in the reference from PopMatters, and there is one whole paragraph about him. Linden is "in nearly 100 percent of the film" → he plays a major part in a film production, should meet WP:BIO, I think :) This is a good stub. PeaceNT 16:08, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Are we looking at the same source? The PopMatters one contains one mention of Porco's name ("...shoot the movie with, a 2’6” body double, a nine-year-old boy named Linden Porco."). BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the same source. That is the first time. Here is the second: "Born with cartilage-hair hypoplasia, a form of dwarfism that stunts growth, but allows for proportional development, Linden is an absolute dynamo of enthusiasm and comic verve. Both on set and off, he comes across like a natural. Never having acted before, he basically learns all the lines and delivers them in full in the scenes as they are acted out, and is responsible for almost all of the “Calvin” character’s “acting”. His is the real body and head (digitally removed, in the end—the head, that is) that we are seeing, his is the natural comic timing and physical comedy talents. So then, if he’s in nearly 100 percent of the film, why is his name nowhere to be found on the box credits?..."

and the third:"And then think of what a much more fascinating film this would have been if somehow they rewrote the entire story for Linden—having a nine year old in cahoots with diamond thieves and gangsters,..."

PeaceNT 02:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

That's bizarre. How I missed those mentions I'll never know. Clearly my next step is to find someone who'll teach me to read again. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:56, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per PeaceNT, I believe the links cited satisfy our requirements for non-trivial sources. Yamaguchi先生 04:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.