Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lilian Aya
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. – Avi 07:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lilian Aya
This used to be an attack page ( poorly sourced statement deleted per WP:BLP, check history and talk page). Without this material, the article is only NN information about a middle rank functionary. No article links there. JRSP 13:19, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep she holds an important office in Venezuela. Westenra 16:23, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete An illegible fax in Spanish is not "multiple independent reliable and verifiable sources". A government post might be an unimportant or honorary one. We have no obvious way of knowing that the site is in fact a government site there, since a foreign language Wikipedia might link to www.whitehouse.org or www.theonion.com for humor posing as official looking information. If the person is a high government official, there should be lots of articles in major newspapers of that country. If some of them were in an English language paper of that country (most countries have at least one) so much the better, but we probably could find an editor of English language Wikipedia able to check out foreign languages refs. Edison 19:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete without prejudice The main reason that I want this page to be deleted isn't that she's non-noteable, but that the page history exposes wikipedia to liability. The previous versions of this page show a reckless disregard for the truth and are extremely defamatory. They say that she was a member of a Peruvian terrorist group in the 1960s despite the fact that she is not Peruvian and that the group metioned didn't exist in the 1960s. They also say that she was part of some urban guerrilla outfit in Venezuela, but there's no verifiable information that she was. Basically, this page was the definition of libel, and I have no doubt that the Chavez administration would delight in suing Wikipedia. --Descendall 20:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. As it stands she does not appear to meet the criteria in WP:BIO, as merely being a politician does not merit an entry. If one of our spanish speaking Wikipedians can provide more detail, then I'd be happy to change my opinion. Movementarian (Talk) 20:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- No vote. She certainly holds that position (which really tells us nothing); I've seen some pages talking about her from the Organization of American States, a couple of news conferences and quotes from her, several press releases talking about her being named to that position, but nothing that seems to shout at me of the importance of her position. If anything, it seems like she may function as something of public relations.. I'm going to look into it some more. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 11:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- I have no problem with losing the history; any deletion should be without prejudice to future recreation. I suspect she does merit an article, but there is no great loss in losing this sub-stub. - Jmabel | Talk 06:21, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with that; further information makes it seem she is fairly notable, and articles like this help counter systemic bias; but the history in this case isn't helpful. Perhaps this article should be deleted and have the stub recreated in its place sans history? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 21:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- My main concern is the use of the article as an attack page. Although I still think subject is NN, I would not object the re-creation of a NPOV stub. JRSP 22:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with that; further information makes it seem she is fairly notable, and articles like this help counter systemic bias; but the history in this case isn't helpful. Perhaps this article should be deleted and have the stub recreated in its place sans history? -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 21:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
